Alterac Valley status

[Natla]

Queue as a group if the battleground will allow it, which is currently everything except Alterac Valley.

To everyone referencing API JoinBattlefield Wiki...

It is in contradiction with this 2008 revision :

Patch 2.0.3 You can no longer queue a group for Alterac Valley, and if the battlefield window is closed it won't queue you for the last opened battlefield. Patch 2.4.0 Queuing for Alterac Valley as a group is back

This revision clearly says that queuing as group in AV was possible until 2.0.3.

[Mr.Anderson]

Nice update! From now horde have to archers, free wins to alliance side!

[thiella]

If you need a script to que av in group than you do something that the rest users don't do it. You exploited av and the ban without notice is the proper way.

A non premade bg is refreshing at least. Many stopped playing bgs cause they found only premades against high level rank players.

[Aslan]

Last time I checked the server claimed to be blizzlike.

This being said, of course it is far from blizzlike (retail vanilla), we have to accept that and be grateful about a server that tries its best to live up to the standards of back then. Its as blizzlike as possible for the Nostalrius staff.

So what is blizzlike? Assuming AV premades were possible and even though blizzard didnt implement a group queue button for a reason, they tolerated the queuing of a 30 man raid.
Is it blizzlike if 10 guilds start doing full guild AV's with superior organisation and gear compared to everyday pugs? A few hundred dominating and destroying the gameplay of ten thousand?

It is not. Back in retail there were nowhere as many premades and such a thing as 5 min AV's didnt happen or only very rarely on some servers. Of course the blizzlike system would allow to do it, but the gameplay wouldnt be blizzlike anymore. Be happy that the GM's only provide the real blizzlike feeling in some aspects in the game, otherwise MC would be much harder and fewer guilds would farm it now and there would only be like 2 premades each faction because that is how it was back then.

I think the decision to ban premades from AV is good and necessary to provide blizzlike experiences, however banning those players wasnt the fairest thing to do instead of just warning them. Eventually give that monkey a little mute for not being taught to be respectful by his mommy.


Cheers

[Natla]

@Aslan To have custom rules in order to provide a more vanilla retail feeling is a thing, banning people without stating these custom rules is a completely different thing.

[Awkwardlol]

Hey, Nostalrius staff:

If you don't know how to disable the group queue in the battleground handler, feel free to PM me on the forum

Day 3 and still there has been no fix to the Battleground Handler. What are you doing?

[Mopar]

People keep saying that there is all this evidence that this was possible during retail, but what evidence, exactly? I played a crap ton of AV during retail, and I've never seen such a thing.

QueueQ Premades ran 40-man AV and IoC premades starting in 2009. The mechanic they used (voice comms simultaneous queueing) worked in vanilla as well. Interestingly, it worked even from different realms in the same battle group.

https://www.facebook.com/qqpremades

Looks like Blizzard finally patched it out though - at WoD.

[varth]

I played in retail and you could definitely group queue if you wanted to with no fear of repercussions. It's fine if nost doesn't want to allow this but to ban without warning and accuse people of hiding an "exploit" that has been widely used for a decade WITH BLIZZARDS OK is beyond stupid.

[Stalk]

Queue as a group if the battleground will allow it, which is currently everything except Alterac Valley.

To everyone referencing API JoinBattlefield Wiki...

It is in contradiction with this 2008 revision :

Patch 2.0.3 You can no longer queue a group for Alterac Valley, and if the battlefield window is closed it won't queue you for the last opened battlefield. Patch 2.4.0 Queuing for Alterac Valley as a group is back

This revision clearly says that queuing as group in AV was possible until 2.0.3.

Here we go again...

"Note: JoinBattlefield(0, 1) will indeed queue the full group for AV, but not strictly as a group - it will behave similarly as if everybody had individually queued. It's not clear if this is the intended effect."

The problem was not that they were using the /script to queue everyone into the battlefield. The problem was that they knew that it was queuing them into the battlefield in a premade group instead of randomly mixing in all the other players that have also queued for AV.

[SupaflyIRL]

If you need a script to que av in group than you do something that the rest users don't do it. You exploited av and the ban without notice is the proper way.

A non premade bg is refreshing at least. Many stopped playing bgs cause they found only premades against high level rank players.

You use the /cast script every time you hit one of your spells

get b& script kiddie