Update regarding PvP

[Simonich]

Idk what youre saying, but this change is absolutely lovely.

Before, if I solo queued I'd go vs premades. So the only way was making my own premade. Did 30 ABs, and 25 of them were player vs flag games, free wins and no PvP cause people opening games and abusing the system. It was retarded.

I played 8 Bgs today, won 5 of them. And the scoreboards looked so normal. Winning side having slightly more kills overall. And PvP is actually fun.

I don't know what you guys are saying. But this change is good.

[Healthycoww]

Idk what youre saying, but this change is absolutely lovely.

Yep totally lovely. Now I'm forced to play with people that AFK at farm, Chinese players that don't speak a word of english, people that fight on the roads. People that don't go for EFC in WSG.

I wouldn't mind it but the average player is straight up retarded.

I don't care about having to fight, just the average PuG player just...doesn't do anything lol
And I can't bring a full team into any BG I play in, or play with any of my friends without having insanely long queue times.

Just absolutely lovely for ranking up to 14.

Solo queue is just about luck. Even if you play NONSTOP if you randomly join losing games all day you're going to get outearned by someone that joined better games. This is ridiculous for ranking.

Solo unorganized PvP is boring. You join a warsong...people just farm kills in mid all game. If you join an AB you get to witness the AFKfest at Blacksmith or Farm.

I don't want to play with people in full greens. I don't want to play with mages that don't know how to peel or polymorph. I don't want to play with people that "Don't care about objectives" and are "Just here for fun."
I don't want to play with warriors that all attack different targets. I don't want to play with AB teams that have 7 rogues. People like this are kill fodder and they deserve to be camped in the graveyard by a team with a much better grasp on the flow of the game then they have.

It's like telling people that they can ONLY raid with randoms because we have to give the bosses a chance because they whined on the forums.

The vanilla honor system is NOT designed for premade vs premade queue. If you're going to implement a system like that you might as well design your own ranking system because what we have now certainly isn't vanilla WoW. Premades are the biggest part of PvP and at the moment they're completely dead unless you try and time up your solo queue with 15 of your friends.

[Brian]

soloqueue is indeed kinda all about luck and getting the right ppl.
tho what some ppl are doing is trying to bypass the system again rlly.
there are chinese premades that are queue'ing up games as premade but dropping the queue so the other faction have empty free game.
i already had 4 games where it was 3-4 ally's vs 10 chinese horde.

[Cortana]

Lol rekt

[reihen]

Seeing as how multi queueing wasn't added until patch 1.9, this is a great step towards making the experience more 1:1 Blizz-like.

Thank you devs!

[Rhoen]

Seeing as how multi queueing wasn't added until patch 1.9, this is a great step towards making the experience more 1:1 Blizz-like.

Thank you devs!

there also wasn't a separate system separating premades from non premades and premades didn't face a 20-40 min que timer.

[Healthycoww]

there also wasn't a separate system separating premades from non premades and premades didn't face a 20-40 min que timer.

This is a very important fact. Also the queue is more like 50-80 minutes since I tried it last.

[alex85eu]

thanks for the change i can actually enjoy pvp now again in wsg/ab.

[PhilipRed]

What if we remove 5man party from PuG queues? is almost as unfair as facing a premade, Pugs have few choices agaisnt 5 man with TS.

[Healthycoww]

You will ***NEVER*** remove group play from PvP. Get some friends.

Trying to change the system to stomp it out will only result in the crafty PvP players finding ways around it.

I'm sure this is a legitimate solo queue and not a group of friends solo queue'ing on the count of 3 right?: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/3ko ... .57.02.png

I'm not actually sure the wait-time for 5 man groups on ally side, but on horde you have to wait 6-12 minutes longer then if you took the instant solo queue.