Situation update - 1st May 2016

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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Dr. Doom » Sun May 01, 2016 7:21 pm

This is a good time to get rid of all your dollars btw. Fall incoming.
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Mryul » Sun May 01, 2016 7:23 pm

Haha, look at all the mad people that wanted to make profits off of Nostalrius' code. Haha, so mad.

Anyway, all the sane people are out partying. Thanks Nostalrius!
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Noxm » Sun May 01, 2016 7:23 pm

mrmr wrote:
Imbaslap wrote:all these scumbags wanting free code and work from other so they can continue pirating is by far next level of Dumb.


Like Nostalrius did?

...wait....who will be "hired" by blizzard?
The early MaNGOS team...or Nostalrius' who took the work of these people?


Learn to read, thanks :

Daemon wrote:B. Nostalrius source code and database won’t be released

We acknowledge the help that the emulation community provided to us by creating MaNGOS and our initial objective was to release part of these sources to help improve the current emulators - without our special anti-cheat and some other critical features.

Our custom anticheat had unique functionalities that allowed us to detect and track any kind of hack / bot in a generic way. We believe the anticheat that we made was able to detect and was able to block all of the known threats, and releasing our code would allow the development of more powerful cheating tools that would be more difficult, if not impossible, to detect. We have spent countless hours to fight people making money from exploits, cheats and traffics: the last thing we want to see now is people getting more money from wow hacks because of us.

Some voices in the emulation scene wanted to legally force us to release the complete source code if we chose to only publish a part of it. As explained above, the anticheat is not something we would reveal in any case.

A second important point is that keeping the sources private could be useful at some point during the discussion with Blizzard. They proposed to discuss together and we want to have all the chances on our side, for the community we represent now.

Furthermore, if official legacy servers were to be released at some point in the future, the emulation would become, in essence, obsolete for our community.
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by peredum » Sun May 01, 2016 7:24 pm

theluda wrote:The real disappointment here is... you're all being sold out. Want to bet on it?

Its all in numbers right on front page.
And 250k signatures on their petition making them "ambassadors".
Somebody still believes in "crowd intelligence"?
Same show actually as evolved "democracy" works.
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Wulfgrin » Sun May 01, 2016 7:28 pm

Dr. Doom wrote:This is a good time to get rid of all your dollars btw. Fall incoming.


Is this zerohedge or nostalrius?
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Wulfgrin » Sun May 01, 2016 7:29 pm

You can't release this stuff and then expect to go to Blizzard and get anything. I thought it was being used as a bargaining chip in the original announcement and its almost spelled out here. I'd rather have official legacy servers from Blizz though. Some may think differently. It appears nothing has been taken off the table, so I'll wait and see what happens before passing judgement.
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Imbaslap » Sun May 01, 2016 7:30 pm

Noxm wrote:
mrmr wrote:
Imbaslap wrote:all these scumbags wanting free code and work from other so they can continue pirating is by far next level of Dumb.


Like Nostalrius did?

...wait....who will be "hired" by blizzard?
The early MaNGOS team...or Nostalrius' who took the work of these people?


Learn to read, thanks :

Daemon wrote:B. Nostalrius source code and database won’t be released

We acknowledge the help that the emulation community provided to us by creating MaNGOS and our initial objective was to release part of these sources to help improve the current emulators - without our special anti-cheat and some other critical features.

Our custom anticheat had unique functionalities that allowed us to detect and track any kind of hack / bot in a generic way. We believe the anticheat that we made was able to detect and was able to block all of the known threats, and releasing our code would allow the development of more powerful cheating tools that would be more difficult, if not impossible, to detect. We have spent countless hours to fight people making money from exploits, cheats and traffics: the last thing we want to see now is people getting more money from wow hacks because of us.

Some voices in the emulation scene wanted to legally force us to release the complete source code if we chose to only publish a part of it. As explained above, the anticheat is not something we would reveal in any case.

A second important point is that keeping the sources private could be useful at some point during the discussion with Blizzard. They proposed to discuss together and we want to have all the chances on our side, for the community we represent now.

Furthermore, if official legacy servers were to be released at some point in the future, the emulation would become, in essence, obsolete for our community.



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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by mrmr » Sun May 01, 2016 7:31 pm

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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Dr. Doom » Sun May 01, 2016 7:31 pm

Wulfgrin wrote:
Dr. Doom wrote:This is a good time to get rid of all your dollars btw. Fall incoming.


Is this zerohedge or nostalrius?


Everything's the same.
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Re: Situation update - 1st May 2016

by Imbaslap » Sun May 01, 2016 7:33 pm

TLDR. doesn't matter what you think.
you do not represent 250,000 players who signed the petition.
you do not represent the millions of veiwers and handful of twitch streamers that want legacy servers from blizzard.
you are not part of the silent majority who love this game.
if legacy servers come out, Mangos is obsolete.. meaning there is no need to emulate a game that is already out and provided... outside of piracy and profiting. so good luck with that argument.

releasing the code before actual legacy servers comes out means nothing. after legacy servers is out, you can have your code and the empty lot of people wanting to touch it.. as it becomes ... "obsolete"
rekt 11/10.
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