Situation update - 1st May 2016

[kott0n]

Whoever thinks people are really asking for the anti-cheat are delusional. That's called a dodge.

We want the code to raise the bar because as much "talk and hype" this has generated, its still just that.

Release the code, let the community decide what to do with it. If 20+ profiting projects pop up that's more incentive than 10 streamers, some has been developer, 3 frenchies and a petition. This is PR nightmare, even if you sold Eggplants. They have to respond to this and they are. If you think this somehow isn't just to let the hype die down, I'm really sorry.

Again no on cares about the anti-cheat, the source code means the likely hood of seeing a decent AQ/Naxx is possible.

Unless you want to bank on "talk and hype", I don't.

[Pottu]

Off-topic

[Sharax]

I think there is no reason to argue any more. Some people are very convinced that there will be vanilla server by Blizzard or at least with Blizzard's permission. I do not believe that at all. I only believe that there will be something that it will be miles away from what we want.

I also belive that whatever this thing will be, Nost guys will earn money. This is not bad thing. Of course it is NOT an "ambassador" thing to do but anyway. I also believe that people in here will be convinced that this thing is what they want. They may even say "thank you for this! Pristine FTW"!

So, there is no need to argue. I will be here to either appoligize for what I am stating here or raise the finger to the ones with the big mouth. Because having an opinion is one thing. Having an opinion and talk trash to others is another thing.

If Blizzard doesn't support true legacy servers and only comes out with some bastardized pristine monstrosity, the private server legacy community will continue playing on private servers. I'll continue playing on Kronos, Warmane or new initiatives that pop up and avoid Blizzard retail and whatever half-assed attempt to cater to us, as will most of us.

But, I'll keep an open mind over the process and wish Nost and Kern well at their efforts. I think they have a very good feel for what we want and what will not work. If you think it is some sort of sell-out to support some horseshit Blizzard concept, I doubt any of us will go.

So, we'll see what happens. If nothing significant is accomplished, we continue on our merry way supporting alternate private servers.

[Lifealert]

Kind of disappointed the character data wont be released. Was hoping to play my warlock for a little bit just to remember the good times I had.

I heard kronos has level 60 warlocks ready to be purchased with similar gear levels for your liking.

I'd never wire some sketchy russian 200+ USD.

[gumby540]

If Blizzard doesn't support true legacy servers and only comes out with some bastardized pristine monstrosity, the private server legacy community will continue playing on private servers. I'll continue playing on Kronos, Warmane or new initiatives that pop up and avoid Blizzard retail and whatever half-assed attempt to cater to us, as will most of us.

But, I'll keep an open mind over the process and wish Nost and Kern well at their efforts. I think they have a very good feel for what we want and what will not work. If you think it is some sort of sell-out to support some horseshit Blizzard concept, I doubt any of us will go.

So, we'll see what happens. If nothing significant is accomplished, we continue on our merry way supporting alternate private servers.

This guy gets it.

[ZeroUm]

I'm truly sorry my first contact with you is to say something negative, but I feel I need it:

I'm following the community mainly for technical reasons, looking at the code, how it behaves. I find it fascinating how server emulators work, how they are coded, and who coded them. But I also truly care about well being of the general WoW community that I have been part for very large part of this last decade, and important, great years of my life.

I was kind of expecting the code and data would not be released due to the talks with Blizzard, as it would be counterproductive to your future meetings.

I'm just really annoyed at the announcements you've been making in the last few days, in the forum, twitter, and the hype it was generated by social media, based on what you posted.

Saying vague statement are "There's an announcement coming this weekend", "Dev team promised something special... tomorrow", "Uploading some files"; those tweets were bait-and-switch tactics in your communication, something more associated with fraud than something good. This is unbecoming of human beings wanting to become "Legacy Ambassadors", stewards to the WoW community, to Blizzard. You started this relationship with a really bad move.

I would not be here saying these harsh words if you had defused the hype with other words, and really being upfront saying there would not be a server code and data releases this weekend, but an announcement explaining why of that, and the release of other tools the community would find useful. That would have been sufficiently of clear, good faith.

Please don't excuse it saying that we were the ones who read more than what was said. Yes, you can say that about announcements of Pristine, or Legacy, or licensing, those were ridiculous; but there was indeed some expectations set about the said releases this specific weekend, and those are the ones I'm taking about.

I ask you to, please, please reflect upon your future communications with this community, both the private server technical, private server players, and the whole WoW one. Please behave respectfully, don't set wrong expectations, communicate clearly, and defuse hypes as they show up.

Blizzard is expecting to talk passionate individuals, but also professionals, who they believe they can trust their most prized work.

[Dr. Doom]

Hmm, seems Corecraft hasn't fixed anything for 12 days now. Guessing they're also waiting to see if Legacy servers happen.

[Kikeron]

I think there is no reason to argue any more. Some people are very convinced that there will be vanilla server by Blizzard or at least with Blizzard's permission. I do not believe that at all. I only believe that there will be something that it will be miles away from what we want.

I also belive that whatever this thing will be, Nost guys will earn money. This is not bad thing. Of course it is NOT an "ambassador" thing to do but anyway. I also believe that people in here will be convinced that this thing is what they want. They may even say "thank you for this! Pristine FTW"!

So, there is no need to argue. I will be here to either appoligize for what I am stating here or raise the finger to the ones with the big mouth. Because having an opinion is one thing. Having an opinion and talk trash to others is another thing.

If Blizzard doesn't support true legacy servers and only comes out with some bastardized pristine monstrosity, the private server legacy community will continue playing on private servers. I'll continue playing on Kronos, Warmane or new initiatives that pop up and avoid Blizzard retail and whatever half-assed attempt to cater to us, as will most of us.

But, I'll keep an open mind over the process and wish Nost and Kern well at their efforts. I think they have a very good feel for what we want and what will not work. If you think it is some sort of sell-out to support some horseshit Blizzard concept, I doubt any of us will go.

So, we'll see what happens. If nothing significant is accomplished, we continue on our merry way supporting alternate private servers.

Yes. Are you sure, though, that these "ambasadors" will negotiate for this? Are you sure they won't use these 250K ppl to get a good deal for them only?

[hunnybubu]

I think there is no reason to argue any more. Some people are very convinced that there will be vanilla server by Blizzard or at least with Blizzard's permission. I do not believe that at all. I only believe that there will be something that it will be miles away from what we want.

I also belive that whatever this thing will be, Nost guys will earn money. This is not bad thing. Of course it is NOT an "ambassador" thing to do but anyway. I also believe that people in here will be convinced that this thing is what they want. They may even say "thank you for this! Pristine FTW"!

So, there is no need to argue. I will be here to either appoligize for what I am stating here or raise the finger to the ones with the big mouth. Because having an opinion is one thing. Having an opinion and talk trash to others is another thing.

If Blizzard doesn't support true legacy servers and only comes out with some bastardized pristine monstrosity, the private server legacy community will continue playing on private servers. I'll continue playing on Kronos, Warmane or new initiatives that pop up and avoid Blizzard retail and whatever half-assed attempt to cater to us, as will most of us.

But, I'll keep an open mind over the process and wish Nost and Kern well at their efforts. I think they have a very good feel for what we want and what will not work. If you think it is some sort of sell-out to support some horseshit Blizzard concept, I doubt any of us will go.

So, we'll see what happens. If nothing significant is accomplished, we continue on our merry way supporting alternate private servers.

Yes. Are you sure, though, that these "ambasadors" will negotiate for this? Are you sure they won't use these 250K ppl to get a good deal for them only?

OK what type of good deal would they strike for them only? Just saying....


Blizzard owns all of this content and everything involved with the content when it comes to the last word.

NO ONE has any other decisions in the matter. Only a voice that can be ignored. Blizzard has finally heard this voice. I don't think these guys will screw it up.

[Dreez]

C. A special gift for you
We are glad to inform you that Nostalrius team is releasing the first "replay" feature for World of Warcraft

Not the first one; Arena Tournament has a replay feature for all arena matches during the season available to anyone on the server.
Still a really nice thing