Message to the private servers community

[shaana]

Yes, YES, YESSSS

[Kha]

I think I will go too on the new pve server, on a second note, too much ganking and stress here.

[Doofoos]

Won't this also hurt the newcomers on PvP Nost? I don't suggest logging on Saturday. New players will tend to prefer a fresh server where everyone starts from zero than an existing one.

No, it won't hurt it, Nost is only 6 months old, it's not like 2+ years old server with ruined economy, where noone is running 5\10 ppls because everyone wearing full t3.
Actually first PVE private server is very good, a lot of new ppl will join, and they won't hurt our population.

[umandez]

Yeah there will be new people joining the pve server and maybe 1-2k of the pop from Nost will move over too and create a nice lag free stable pop on nost and the pve server will probably hover around the 2-3k mark.

Will be a win win tbh

[Radvo]

Horrible ideea.

You're splitting the huge population which was the main attraction of Nostalrius into 2 realms, making it no better than the competition.
Also, PvE is for casuals and makes 0 sense immersion-wise (oh there's an enemy, but I can't attack him unless he allows me to).

[tobor]

Very excited. I really hope it works out, I played PVE and PVP in retail vanilla but found PVE to be more enjoyable.
Initially I was reticent about opening a new PVE realm, despite the (initial) overpopulation, because lack of players is a constant problem private servers face, and having a heavily populated one would show that there is a demand for vanilla servers and that it can work. However, it seems that the population hasn't died down, and there is a group of players who don't currently play because: a. the server is too full and b. it's PVP instead of PVE. This could fix both problems, maybe even reduce the tensions between players, if everyone can choose the server type they like best, instead of being forced into PVP. The server constantly being at about 2x the max capacity of a retail server is a little excessive. I hope this works out, a good population for both servers. Both factions too, preferably, if all Alliance don't reroll on the PVE realm...

[shaana]

Also, PvE is for casuals and makes 0 sense immersion-wise (oh there's an enemy, but I can't attack him unless he allows me to).

I don't see an enemy when i see another player, whatever faction he's in.

[Karrier]

this is one of the dumbest things i have ever seen. anyone who played vanilla wow knows that the cap at max was 3.5k concurrent players at once, even if the population split in half, it would be more populated than a high population retail vanilla server. stop your doomsday claims and false logic please.

Anybody thinking that a second server will in any kind effect the nost PvP-Server-Population in a way that would hurt the server is simply not smart. Vanilla servers were caped at 2,5k. We have 3.5k lowest and way way more on peek.

Also dont forget that new players will be attracted by the server.

Your argument is flawed, wow retail vanilla was not a private server, millions of people played it.
MMOS tend to die (but WoW didn't). In any case if it had died they could have mixed the servers into a fewer ones, like every mmo does in the long run.
On the private scene things are different, and once you split pve and pvp servers you cant mix them together when pop decreases.

It's not a problem that the population on both realms stalls at 3k. The problem is that it will go lower in the long run, and there won't be more servers to mix with.

WoW retail had much more than 2 servers at same time, meaning that they can mix them. We only have population for 2, if they are pvp/pve we can't mix them later.

There will be new people attracted by the pve server, but if those are the kind of player that can't cope with getting ganked, how long will they last in the game anyway?

[Lefeu]

Also, PvE is for casuals and makes 0 sense immersion-wise (oh there's an enemy, but I can't attack him unless he allows me to).

I don't see an enemy when i see another player, whatever faction he's in.

Have you seen the game trailer? One would think this game is about a war between horde and alliance. And nothing else really.

[Simonich]

Okay how about the pve server becomes full blizzlike and the PvP server turns semi-blizzlike, and devs create some custom world PvP events once in awhile that have no rewards whatsoever and are just for the sake of fun? Which I'm quite sure don't affect the blizzlike fans, and anyway they would be off to the blizzlike server which is the pve server.

As semi-blizzlike server I mean it will be just as it is now, but it will also have other things like maybe additional world PvP objectives to fight for around azeroth, which don't have rewards, just for the sake of PvP. Some kind of alterac valley going on in the world, you get my idea.

Or if not, there could be things as alliance NPCs attacking orgrimmar and vice versa, and that would be once in awhile. Or for that to happen, some people would have to contribute gold and items for the assault to launch etc.

I may have went too far, but depending on how things go I will elaborate later on the suggestions forum.