Situation update - 1st May 2016

[ShiroNoHikage]

Hi all the Nostalrius team !
I'm not here to be rude, rather than ALL THE PLAYERS THAT INSULT YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE ANY OTHER OPTION !
To my mind this possibility of discussion with blizzard is very encouraging for legacy servers, what you've done will really impact wow future. Yes, it's true we want our characters back, and we hope you'll try to do something to transfer them either on official or private vanilla servers. Regarding the question of free servers, i've begin nostal because of i didn't want to pay to play, but now to continue the experience i'm ready to give money. However i think the priority is to discuss and work with blizzard.So do what you've to do. We are already very thanksfull for what you've done. And among the ones who rage, there are some players like me that continue to support you.

A french player,
Hikage

[Isenhart667]

This all sounds awesome to me!

[Pottu]

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[Endoralol]

Okay so whats the issue here?
- 100+ people wanted the source of Nostalrius to re-open it, so they can earn money from it, but yeah, sharing source of Nostalrius would mean, lots of nerfed servers, that will be closed after first week, so stop ask for source, its pointless to get it, if you dont know how to manage it.
Get Mangos source from original site, and develop it your self.
This is anyways what you all looked for Legacy servers on blizzard, whats the issue now? was a lie only? kids? dont have money to pay? then delete fucking game! get a job ! and start to play it again on official servers! FUCKING KIDS AROUND! EVERYTHING WANTS ALL FOR FREE, FUCK YOU !

[hellocouch]

I've come to the conclusion as an outsider who only played Nostalrius for two weeks, who only played for a friend, that those who are completely disrespecting the team that brought you Nostalrius, does not deserve their characters or Blizzard agreeing to keeping Nostalrius alive.

I've played private servers for an MMO that isn't WoW and every time they shut down, no one in their right mind would ask for source codes or their characters. We understood the risks of playing on a private server - that sometimes they don't last for whatever reasons. You were very naive to think that Nostalrius would last forever.

I don't think the best way of getting Nostalrius to release your characters is to be demanding and jerks about it. These are real people who have real lives. These are people who spent years giving you Vanilla and yet you continue to show outsiders who either never played on Nostalrius or only played for a short period of time, that people who played on Nostalrius aren't the best people in the world. Here I thought Nostalrius was a together kind of community, but from the looks of it, some of you are like children who throw tantrum fits because an adult didn't give you what they want.

Releasing code of any kind (including characters) could be grounds for a lawsuit which Nostalrius is trying to avoid. They literally need permission to even release such things. Lets face it, if it's released, someone else will create a private server off-shore and make it Nostalrius 2.0 with a different name. Apparently, no one cares about the lives of real people who could lose a lot in order to please people who disrespect them.

[Pottu]

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[Endoralol]

Okay, it doesn't look like that, your obviously trying to get source, so you can open server your self? I'm right? ofcourse I'm, so and 100 others.

Nostalrius created one of the best Mangos Sources for Vanilla, and you expect them to just release it, that database had over 800 000 players, i'll calculate the price for you. Over 15,000 dollars, So I'm pretty sure if your ready to pay that cash, they will be happy to give you database!

They invested alot alot of time into it, and they can earn alot of money from that source and db! SO WHY THE FUCK THEY WOULD GIVE IT TO SOME SCUMBAG FOR FREE? GIVE ME FUCKING REASON?!

Also blizzard doesn't need their source for it lool that is so stupid, blizzard probably wants to chat with them about community,expirience and other things. Maybe they could be hired as staff members, since they are pretty expirienced developers.

And YES BLIZZARD maybe the game, what the heck you talk about? you sound so stupid man wtf?
fck paying blizzard? when then fuck off from their game, you obviously dont understand that the blizzard have all rights for that game! take it or leave, they make rules, you aceppt them or leave its simple..

DONT EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT NOSTALRIUS! I'm Developer my self on one huger project than this, and i know how hard it is to manage database and core of it, so stop talk, you can't even imagine how much of their time is invested in this and everything was for free? so they are bad people because they dont want to release it? SUCK MY DICK! I'M SO GLAD THEY DIDN'T!


GOOD JOB NOSTALRIUS!

Those people who disagree with that are obviously people who dont have cash to pay for retail, those peopl who wants to try open a new server under your source, and those people who never did develop in their life, and they dont fucking know how hard is to make source such as you have!

So fuck you haters, get a life and stop fucking hate, because your poor in real life. Amen.

[Winterflaw]

After the answer from Blizzard and the amazing support we received, we feel we are now not only the admins of a private server: We are also the ambassadors of a larger movement for the entire World of Warcraft community that wants to see game history restored. It is a major responsibility. Our top-priority and only focus now is to fulfill the needs of this community, by carrying your voice to Blizzard directly.

Don't let it go to your heads.

Moreover, it changes nothing. Getting Vanilla back has always been the actual, underlying goal. Nost was a means to that end. What matters is getting Vanilla back in the best way - and of course one of the concerns there is dealing with the C&D problem. Another major concern is ensuring Bliz receive subs for people playing Vanilla.

A second important point is that keeping the sources private could be useful at some point during the discussion with Blizzard. They proposed to discuss together and we want to have all the chances on our side, for the community we represent now.

I may be wrong, but this may be a significant factor in what has happened. I note that the request for a meeting arrived only shortly before the 30th April release date. I note that the release of advanced Vanilla sources would revolutionize the Vanilla scene. Perhaps you actually have a lever here.

To the extent that this induced Blizzard's behaviour, however, is also to the extent that Bliz were *not* motivated by the mass publicity campaign and petition, and so the extent to which they in fact do *not* have good will towards Vanilla. It is important to guage their motivations accurately.

Good luck in there

And if I might add one last thought - for the love of God, make sure the existing retail WoW team do not run or meaningfully run Vanilla. They don't *get* Vanilla, and so it will not end well, but it will take time to fail, the mass of the player base will hope for success and wait for a good while before giving up with that approach, and so will I think greatly delay reaching Vanilla.

[kovenant]

rant rant rant.

I don't think you ever said you would release the game source and player database.

not releasing the player database is wise in my opinion since it is comprised of 100% personal information.
that is a huge thing to mess with.

i'm disappointed in the game not being released.
if people get the database, or even their own character then what?
they hope to upload it to another private server? like who on earth would do that.
or would you run around in your little own private server, then you can just create the toon yourself and give everything you had.

[Syleynna]

Someone posted it waaaay back a few pages ago with the exact quote that Nost MAY release the code. Please do yourselves a favor a look up in the dictionary the meaning of the word "May". Just FYI it has a different meaning then the word "will"

I hope each an every one of you save this thread and read it in about 15 years when you are in your late twenties and thirties. You will definitely laugh at your past self and also want to apologize to everyone who has to read your selfish spew.

Nost didn't have to open up a Vanilla server, they didn't have to announce it was even closing, they didn't have to keep these forums up and running after Nost closed. They could have opted to go forward with their lives and be productive. But no .. the continue to work for the cause. But you little shits have temper tantrums because they aren't catering to what YOU want (and I swear your parents are doing you no favors in letting you get away with this type of behavior .. taking away your computer might be a good idea at this point).

In my mind Nost's biggest mistake was putting anything in writing insinuating that the code may be released. I'm sure they wish they could go back to that day and erase that whole post and replace it with this:

Dear Players,

Blizzard sent us a C&D, we are done. Closing on April 10th. Love you all and we had fun. Have a great rest of your life because we are now moving forward with ours. To all the appreciative one who gave us no problems and just enjoyed the game please know we were glad to have you on our server. To all you ingrates who just complained, hacked, botted and complained some more .. go fuck yourselves. Sincerely Nost