Message to the private servers community

[Zaft]

Please do not split the server, PvE server isnt needed. YOU WILL KILL THE SERVER.

No they won't, if anything they will improve the server, as it gets too laggy beyond 6k players (which is what the server has most of the time).

whats the point of doing the same stuff we already have ? bring the tbc.

You have to understand that in order to make a TBC server you need to script content and bug test a lot. It's not something you can fart out in a day. In this case they have everything in order, so it's not the same thing. The work on a TBC server probably won't happen with any serious attempts until they're finished with Naxx 40 (they have a lot on their hands as it is).

What's the point you say? Not everyone enjoys playing on a PvP server with all the ganking, and some people want a fresh start as they weren't there for the launch, and are now far behind some players (though catching up isn't hard with the current time line).

I think theres no need of a new realm, just put a cap of the online players at 5000 and the rest must wait in the que, that should be good enough. THE CAP IS THE ONLY OPTION.

You'd rather want 3k people to wait in queue than open a new server? Makes perfect sense...

Do not forget the excess cost of having another realm going on.

I'm sure they have already thought of that, but thanks for reminds them!

This isnt what this is about and you know it. Splitting the community kills the server.

There are multiple private servers out there with multiple servers with a healthy population, please explain that.
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I don't see much, if any evidence.

Leveld 2 chars on nost to 60, would probably level one to 60 on a PvE realm.

Personally I feel it is a bad idea to split the community in half on a private server.

It won't split in half. The majority of the community on Nost Begins (especially 60s) will stay.

stupid decision to not make it pvp too...

Are you really that stupid?

Not allowing transfers is hamstringing the server before it gets started. the grind is real...no one wants to do it repeatedly to keep their guild raiding....many were here because there is no pve option. think people...!

It doesn't take long to hit 60, especially with nobody ganking you. Can easily do it in a little over 5 days with no gankers. The ganking is what keeps me from leveling any more characters than the one I already have, it's very discouraging, however, that's not to say that I will be playing on the PvE server.

I think this is a great idea since there is currently 0 PVE realms out in the private server community that is 1x vanilla.
would probably pull kids from other servers just because of that feature and new guilds.

my next question is..

cross realm Battleground pvp hype?

I have to agree, it would probably get even more people to join the server, and grow Nostalrius population as a whole. Xrealm BGs between the 2 realm also makes a lot of sense.

If we can transfer our current heroes to PvE realm why not , otherwise releasing new realm would be bad for everyone.

Translation: It would be bad for you.
Not everyone thinks like you do.

If it's true, this new server will be a deserted place with absolutely no point playing on. So what's the point?

You have to remember that back in vanilla (even to some degree now) high pop realms had about 2.5k players max online at the same time. 8-8.5k players on at the same time was never intended (just look at the farm spots, impossible to farm). If the server managed to get 2 or 2.5k players on at peak times it would manage what a real Blizz server did back in the day. Heck, if they advertise the new server well on social media and through other channels we might get a whole new stream of players who will join the new server.

No transfer option means most players wouldnt bother leveling the same thing again.

Never say never. I have seen a lot of players with multiple 60s (some even as many as four!).

there wont be big guilds on that realm, progression will go really slow or 0.

You have no idea what you're talking about, as you obviously never played on a low pop server in vanilla.
I played on Twisting Nether EU and it was one of the least populated servers in vanilla, and on top of that I was alliance which was the huge minority of the server, and yet there were a ton of guilds doing 40 man content, some of them were even amongst the best in the world. The server also had some of the best PvPers making PvP movies.

This is a shitty idea.
If I wanted to play on a low pop server I would go to Kronos.

If every player just donated a few bucks this wouldnt be a problem, and the PvP realm could handle 9k players.

That's not how it works. Servers have limitations, just spending more money doesn't automatically make servers handle 9k people. I am not saying that 9k is the max, but at some point it becomes very limited, especially when considering how many can be in one zone at once.

if gathering proffesions is the problem, increase their rate to fulfil the needs of 5x more a normal blizzard server would.

We have dynamic mob spawns which is awesome, so why can't we have dynamic herb/node spawns depending on the number of players?

It would absolutely create a flood in the market, and cause prices to drop drastically. It would also be very easy to abuse, especially for Susan boys.

It's cool I guess, but starting from nothing all over again and leaving current progress here? I don't know if it's worth it in any way.

I hope people realize that the progress on the current server isn't very great at the moment. Getting the amount of gear people have won't take very much time at all, especially considering BWL isn't even released yet, and is very easy to do without amazing gear (though you do need at least two tanks with some gear for one fight in there). A lot of the current BiS gear isn't even from MC (some of it is even crafted greens for casters), which has a lot to do with the fact that most T1 gear sucks major balls.

When it says that "we now have the software and the hardware to do this" does this also mean that you have a new team of GM's/Admins/Devs to support this server? will this affect the timeline on the PvP server? Will this increase the time it takes to identify/confirm/fix defects on the PvP server?

They were recruiting new people to their team, and at the same time switching some people out, so I can only assume that some of it was in preparation for a new server. I wouldn't worry too much.

[Holmes]

a 2nd server would probably also solve most crybabies issues, crying for more/faster spawns of herbs/veins etc
all those can either join the pve realm and hope for a lower pop there, or stay on the pvp server and hope for a lowered pop here. fortunatelly, the devs did not decide to make custom spawns

and if the PvE server gets the PvP servers content always a bit later, the PvE server also wont have to struggle with alle the bugs/exploits/... the PvP server had to. good thing.

[Zaft]

Yes! This is a great move. All the players worried about the community: I seriously doubt the main pvp realm will see a hit of more than 1-2k players. Which still leave 5-6k online at peak times. But the pve realm will bring in a whole new group of players that missed the first server launch, or simply never tried nost because they didn't want pvp.

Most people who have already spent time on the pvp realm won't reroll and wouldn't transfer anyway. The staff's goal with the new realm is clearly to bring in even more players, not split up the players they've already got. If they wanted to split the community, they would have offered transfers. However, they are doing a FRESH server release. It's brilliant because denying transfers is the best move for keeping the main realm highly populated, while allowing new players or those wishing to level alts a place to play.

You hit the nail on the head. Most players at 60 on Nost Begins will of course stay, and this new server will bring in new players. Nost Begins probably won't take a huge hit, if any at all. Some of those new players might even decide that they prefer the Nost Begins server to the new PvE one.

[Stubbler]

Dear god, learn from the other projects.

You have one good thing going for you, and that is 100% focus, and a unified community. Don't split your attention, and certainly don't try and split the playerbase.

Blizzard, and especially Feenix, destroyed their games and their communities, by pandering to those that whined about this and that. The silent majority that play here, love it, and have no reason to come to the forums to speak one way or another about the state of things. People usually only come to the forums to whine or ask for change, i bet 90% of the people playing here would rather it stay as it is.

Don't risk damaging the majority, to service the loud minority.

Other than a little lag due to the population, this is the first time I've ever read negative comments on the project in-game.

Don't be like the alternative, with multiple servers, and a playerbase spread so thin that they're dying.

[Limbflayer]

I will be playing on the PvE server. Got tired of being ganked.

[Tenkar]

Dear god, learn from the other projects.

You have one good thing going for you, and that is 100% focus, and a unified community. Don't split your attention, and certainly don't try and split the playerbase.

Blizzard, and especially Feenix, destroyed their games and their communities, by pandering to those that whined about this and that. The silent majority that play here, love it, and have no reason to come to the forums to speak one way or another about the state of things. People usually only come to the forums to whine or ask for change, i bet 90% of the people playing here would rather it stay as it is.

Don't risk damaging the majority, to service the loud minority.

Other than a little lag due to the population, this is the first time I've ever read negative comments on the project in-game.

Don't be like the alternative, with multiple servers, and a playerbase spread so thin that they're dying.

This ^. Dont catter to the minority.

[Doofoos]

Blizzard, and especially Feenix, destroyed their games and their communities, by pandering to those that whined about this and that.

Feenix destroyed himself because of 0 bugfixes, 0 communication, retarded and slow progression and bad admins.
And still even in worst times (before Nost), with 1.5 years on BWL stage, 0 bugfixes and bugged to hell queues there still was A LOT of players in both realms.
So what the hell are you talking about?

[PeaceHammer]

Dear god, learn from the other projects.

You have one good thing going for you, and that is 100% focus, and a unified community. Don't split your attention, and certainly don't try and split the playerbase.

Blizzard, and especially Feenix, destroyed their games and their communities, by pandering to those that whined about this and that. The silent majority that play here, love it, and have no reason to come to the forums to speak one way or another about the state of things. People usually only come to the forums to whine or ask for change, i bet 90% of the people playing here would rather it stay as it is.

Don't risk damaging the majority, to service the loud minority.

Other than a little lag due to the population, this is the first time I've ever read negative comments on the project in-game.

Don't be like the alternative, with multiple servers, and a playerbase spread so thin that they're dying.

This ^. Dont catter to the minority.

Except, you whining gankers are the minority. A very loud minority who are crying because some of your victims will be rerolling on the PvE server.

[Tenkar]

Dear god, learn from the other projects.

You have one good thing going for you, and that is 100% focus, and a unified community. Don't split your attention, and certainly don't try and split the playerbase.

Blizzard, and especially Feenix, destroyed their games and their communities, by pandering to those that whined about this and that. The silent majority that play here, love it, and have no reason to come to the forums to speak one way or another about the state of things. People usually only come to the forums to whine or ask for change, i bet 90% of the people playing here would rather it stay as it is.

Don't risk damaging the majority, to service the loud minority.

Other than a little lag due to the population, this is the first time I've ever read negative comments on the project in-game.

Don't be like the alternative, with multiple servers, and a playerbase spread so thin that they're dying.

This ^. Dont catter to the minority.

Except, you whining gankers are the minority. A very loud minority who are crying because some of your victims will be rerolling on the PvE server.

The only ganking i do is to my own faction with infernals. You PvE carebears ARE the minority.

[Holmes]

the server is not even live yet but ppl already started bashing each other Kappa