Update regarding PvP

[deadward]

The original system was random, first in line. Sometimes you fought premades sometimes you fought pugs.

The first 'fix' essentially killed solo queue by making premades able to earn staggering amounts of honor by doing nothing.

This fix is going to kill premades. Only the most dominant premade will queue until everyone stops challenging them, they then sit in queue for hours.

Both of these fixes force negative PvP environments and aren't really blizzlike.

Rankers need to rank, and unless you want them killing you all day in Burning Steppes or invading your solo queue with a group of 5 we need a revert to the original blizzlike queue system.

Yup, as soon as this que change happened our raid group was ganking in the searing gorge in between pops.

Oh so you've improved the quality of the PVP server's world pvp as well? Win Win.

[Healthycoww]

When I say old system, I mean before they added the premade vs premade priority matching, so like months ago.

That change is the root of all problems.

[Healthycoww]

The original system was random, first in line. Sometimes you fought premades sometimes you fought pugs.

The first 'fix' essentially killed solo queue by making premades able to earn staggering amounts of honor by doing nothing.

This fix is going to kill premades. Only the most dominant premade will queue until everyone stops challenging them, they then sit in queue for hours.

Both of these fixes force negative PvP environments and aren't really blizzlike.

Rankers need to rank, and unless you want them killing you all day in Burning Steppes or invading your solo queue with a group of 5 we need a revert to the original blizzlike queue system.

Yup, as soon as this que change happened our raid group was ganking in the searing gorge in between pops.

Oh so you've improved the quality of the PVP server's world pvp as well? Win Win.

I guess it's one way to increase the population of the PvE realm lol.
I always feel like such a scumbag when I'm preying on level 50s because I'm resto spec and NEED the honor.

[Atreidas]

Every time I see a new announcement, I get my hopes up that it's something to do with the PvE Server, RIP

cheaters getting rekt is just as good tho tbh

[deadward]

Well I mean there's a reason it's a PVP server.

[Healthycoww]

I personally believe that if no one can challenge your premade group you've earned the right to lord over that battleground for the entire day.

Get good or get out.

Don't force us all to break up our groups of militarized no-lives.

[Zukus]

I, as a member of a premade, have no problem whatshowever in fighting a good long fight against another premade (last weekend anyone?): it's alot of fun, it's challenging and it's what PvP should be all about.
But its not, PvP is about racking up the most honor.

With the current system we are now forced to enter one bg (which im ok with) and fighting another premade for like 40min (which im ok with) and then, wait 20 or 30 minutes for the next pop(which im not ok with).

This would all be very fine if we could still get more honor than puggers since as a R12 i need to be very high in standing just not to decay (lets not talk about ranking up). The problem here is that a R4 losing WSG for 20h/day (during the WSG weekend) will get more honor than me, winning one game an hour against the strongest premade of the opposing faction (im just talking here dont facerape me pls :V ). Can we all agree this should not be?

In my opinion there are two options: revert all changes and go back to blizzlike system (like a blizzlike server should be) OR keep it as it is right now, BUT remove the premade vs premade bullshit.


Ps.: Once agian kudos to Healthycow for once again telling it as it is. I can always count on you to be the voice of reason in these weird threads.

[caval948]

I personally believe that if no one can challenge your premade group you've earned the right to lord over that battleground for the entire day.

That's fine. As long as the premade groups face each other and really EARN that right. "Fighting" 10v3 (those 3 going AFK anyway) all day is not earning.

In the good old times I played in a premade too. It was fun, because out of 3 matches, we had to play at least 1 against another premade. We couldn't dodge, since the server had a smaller population - unlike here on Nost. I never understood how it can be fun to stand around 24/7 while my team's druid or rogue carries one flag after another without any opposition. Guess you need a certain honor fetish for that.

[Sakis255]

rip

[crime]

Were they engaged in industrial level pvp? Tisk tisk