Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by Hobocabbage » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:54 pm

MasterQuaster wrote:
Undertanker wrote:
The first line in that Reddit post is:

"Note: I am not a GM or Official of Elysium, I am simply a member of the community trying to help out."

To me that 4 week at least is pure speculation and it will be until we get more information on an ETA. Hold tight til' Sunday for more details and don't take unofficial information to heart.


I say it gonna last longer than 4 weeks. So 4 weeks is a good minimum. I bet it gonna last 3 month or more. Elysium gonna try to migrate their Database to the "new" Nost Core. They need to downgrade the items of their palyers. That's a bunch of work. And trust me, there gonna be a huge load of bugs after migrating the database to the nost core. People who ever tried to migrate a database of one core to another core know, that this is hard work and provide a endless line of bugs. So yes have fun dreaming of less than 4 weeks.

And that's the reason why the new Elysium server gonna be shity. Cause the Nost DB Chars gonna be mixed with buged Elysium DB Chars. Best choice would have been to strictly seperate the servers. No mixture of Elysium and Nostalrius DB = no bug party.

So, better play on the fresh server to avoid playing the bug party <3

The PvP & PvE Server will not be the original Nost servers! Stop dreaming of that! You gonna have Elysium chracters on it.


You sir obviously do not understand how coding/programming (whichever term you prefer) works. If they bring over the Nost core they don't really have to edit player's items, the core will do it for them. The items run off the code in the core, adjust the core and it will adjust every item. And the characters aren't bugged themselves, the Elysium core itself is. The new core will fix the "Elysium bugs", it will just have whatever bugs Nost had. Copying over a DB isn't hard either, it's pretty much a ctrl-c and ctrl-v with some modifications here and there to adapt to the host. (I could go into exact specifics but don't feel like writing a wall of text.)

Both cores share a lot of similarities, both are designed off of Mangos (to my knowledge), it won't be NEARLY as difficult as you're making it out to be. Will it be out sooner than 4 weeks? Probably not, however you just seem very misinformed on how this whole thing works.

The continued server will not have any more bugs than the fresh server, so don't send fear into people to roll onto the fresh server. It's rather pointless, especially if you are giving people false information.
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by phyriel » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:00 pm

Lol just checked those Crestfall salt posts. They must be really threatened to shit like that on project that ALREADY PROVEN TO BE #1 in history of private scene. Which further reaffirms me as to that Crestfall is for now just the underdog that emerged only due to huge demand for vanilla realm after nost shutdown... my massage to Crestfall... work hard boys, shut your fucking face and work on ur shit... and once you got ur perfect realm feel free to shit talk Nost and its Elysium rebirth. For now tho you got no rights to talk, stfu :P
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by Pottu » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:17 pm

MasterQuaster wrote:Everybody knows that. The word "Nostalrius" was baned in Elysium's chat. -.- It's common knowledge that Elysium didn't like Nostalrius. Don't know if they deleted all Admin posts about Nostalrius in their forums. Just search "nostalrius" at their forum there is your proof if they didn't delte those comments.

This is not true. Are you sure you're not confusing things - perhaps mixing up old stuff from Valkyrie?
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by nervous » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:18 pm

Pottu wrote:This is not true. Are you sure you're not confusing things - perhaps mixing up old stuff from Valkyrie?


Inquiring minds want to know what level of censorship we can expect on Elysium's forums. Now that Russia and America will be great friends again, can we get freedom of shitflinging speech?
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by snawfu » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:25 pm

Pottu wrote:This is not true. Are you sure you're not confusing things - perhaps mixing up old stuff from Valkyrie?

Thanks for Correcting the Record™

Is there plans for the Nostalrius core to revert the visibility hacks they used to improve performance and fix class mechanics that were broken for years (this is counting the closed beta testing of the server)?


I will personally work toward removing china from the server since this question was never answered by the Nostalrius™ staff.
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by Fryzarn » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:26 pm

I'm really hyped, lets see how this turns out.
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by vanillaplayer2016 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:28 pm

phyriel wrote:Lol just checked those Crestfall salt posts. They must be really threatened to shit like that on project that ALREADY PROVEN TO BE #1 in history of private scene. Which further reaffirms me as to that Crestfall is for now just the underdog that emerged only due to huge demand for vanilla realm after nost shutdown... my massage to Crestfall... work hard boys, shut your fucking face and work on ur shit... and once you got ur perfect realm feel free to shit talk Nost and its Elysium rebirth. For now tho you got no rights to talk, stfu :P

crestfall isnt really doing vanilla realms. its doing PTE, progress by expansions. i read that they plan to progress through all expansions even past legion. thats what i understood from their posts after me posting many posts trying to know why redo bad expansions. that means that the older expansions, including vanilla, will become obsolete by the time they reach the later expansions so vanilla realms and probably BC realms will be gone. they just have the ambition to be blizzard 2.0 by doing the same illogic nonsense blizzard is doing. if you want to keep playing vanilla wow, crestfall isnt the right place for the long run. NOSTALRIUS is!!
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by Pottu » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:30 pm

nervous wrote:Inquiring minds want to know what level of censorship we can expect on Elysium's forums. Now that Russia and America will be great friends again, can we get freedom of shitflinging speech?

Generally you can expect similar level of "censorship" as Nostalrius had. We can not and will not allow all kinds of speech, not in-game and not on the forums. With the US elections finally over, hopefully I won't have to mute as many Trump-memesters in Barrens chat.

snawfu wrote:Is there plans for the Nostalrius core to revert the visibility hacks they used to improve performance and fix class mechanics that were broken for years (this is counting the closed beta testing of the server)?

We have access to Nostalrius bug tracker. We'll certainly try to fix stuff as much as we can. But I'm no programmer, I don't know how difficult to fix some of these things are.

snawfu wrote:I will personally work toward removing china from the server since this question was never answered by the Nostalrius™ staff.

PvP happened on a PvP realm. Make an entertaining video.
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by line4 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:42 pm

Pottu wrote:Generally you can expect similar level of "censorship" as Nostalrius had. We can not and will not allow all kinds of speech, not in-game and not on the forums. With the US elections finally over, hopefully I won't have to mute as many Trump-memesters in Barrens chat.


Censorship of political views aside, will the new server actually have an actively enforced English-only policy in public chats such as BG chats?

I would heavily recommend simply disallowing non-latin character sets in BGs, since as you know, reporting 90% of the BG participants one by one was a pretty tedious process on old Nost, and somehow most of them managed to slip through the cracks even when reported.

PvP isn't exactly fun when your own team refuses to speak the official server language.
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Re: Now is the time for Legacy community reunification

by smilkovpetko » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:45 pm

Pottu wrote:PvP happened on a PvP realm. Make an entertaining video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-QrUEZatH4

This is why Nostalrius was and always will be unique and special.

Blizzard never had and will never have anything like this.
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