Update regarding PvP
Re: Update regarding PvP
Just did a BG. It was amazing. We lost terribly and I don't even care. I got to fight other players in a team setting! It was so fun!!!!! OMG Thankyou!!!! Finally I can get on and pvp!
- deadward
- Sergeant
Re: Update regarding PvP
Hey!
Sounds like this fix surely was needed for lvl 60 players, but my suggestion is to implement being able to join different ques at the same time in the lower lvl brackets with smaller communitives. I play at 40-49 and this fix might kill the possibility to ever play AB again in that bracket. Im also guessing the 29s and 39s will have similar problems.
Best Regards
Sounds like this fix surely was needed for lvl 60 players, but my suggestion is to implement being able to join different ques at the same time in the lower lvl brackets with smaller communitives. I play at 40-49 and this fix might kill the possibility to ever play AB again in that bracket. Im also guessing the 29s and 39s will have similar problems.
Best Regards
- henryowl
- Private
Re: Update regarding PvP
Glad to see the staff is taking feedback into account and (tries to) fix things, while a lot of work is being put as well into a new server + current and future content.
For those who aren't convinced / QQ about the last change :
There isn't an optimal queue system for vanilla which can make every type of player happy. The least worst system is the answer.
The fix is only hurting the very small minority of the player base (we're talking about 50-100 players tops on each side, which is nothing) who were farming honor in empty games (at an industrial level). If they really want their rank they'll now have to "work" harder and put more time into it.
Basically honormades are no longer a thing (rip chinese rankers), while teams put up for more than just honor grind (fun, competition and skittles) can still get what they want with some patience (stomping pugs and/or premades vs premades) and solo queuers get to experience a way more blizzlike BG system (getting bullied in a very one sided and short game or facing other solo heroes).
Another good result is that it will to lead to more world pvp (for honor purposes / killing time while waiting for a bg pop), and that's an important feature of a pvp server. And no, it won't make the afkmade guys farm lvl 50ish at flight paths (iirc you get an irrelevant honor gain from kiling "lowbies" still).
For those who aren't convinced / QQ about the last change :
There isn't an optimal queue system for vanilla which can make every type of player happy. The least worst system is the answer.
The fix is only hurting the very small minority of the player base (we're talking about 50-100 players tops on each side, which is nothing) who were farming honor in empty games (at an industrial level). If they really want their rank they'll now have to "work" harder and put more time into it.
Basically honormades are no longer a thing (rip chinese rankers), while teams put up for more than just honor grind (fun, competition and skittles) can still get what they want with some patience (stomping pugs and/or premades vs premades) and solo queuers get to experience a way more blizzlike BG system (getting bullied in a very one sided and short game or facing other solo heroes).
Another good result is that it will to lead to more world pvp (for honor purposes / killing time while waiting for a bg pop), and that's an important feature of a pvp server. And no, it won't make the afkmade guys farm lvl 50ish at flight paths (iirc you get an irrelevant honor gain from kiling "lowbies" still).
Grand Marshal Scarab Lord Slicy "Baguette"
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Slicy
- Sergeant Major
Re: Update regarding PvP
The fix is only hurting the very small minority of the player base (we're talking about 50-100 players tops on each side, which is nothing) who were farming honor in empty games (at an industrial level). If they really want their rank they'll now have to "work" harder and put more time into it.
yeah it only hurts the ones playing pvp on a daily basis- sounds like a great idea? its like saying dreamstate or nope you are only allowed to raid with pugs..............................
yeah it only hurts the ones playing pvp on a daily basis- sounds like a great idea? its like saying dreamstate or nope you are only allowed to raid with pugs..............................
- coupdegrace
- Grunt
Re: Update regarding PvP
Win trading / dodging / farming honor in empty BGs =/= PvP on a regular basis.
Like many said, the only premades who are butthurt about this fix are the ones that got used to profit from what the system allowed in order to farm high amounts of honor instead of getting good and deserve wins by stomping pugs or facing other premades.
Good luck with your ranking if you can't stand playing BGs and getting honor like you should for that purpose.
Like many said, the only premades who are butthurt about this fix are the ones that got used to profit from what the system allowed in order to farm high amounts of honor instead of getting good and deserve wins by stomping pugs or facing other premades.
Good luck with your ranking if you can't stand playing BGs and getting honor like you should for that purpose.
Grand Marshal Scarab Lord Slicy "Baguette"
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Slicy
- Sergeant Major
Re: Update regarding PvP
Is it considered "tricky" or an "abuse" to countdown with mates to get all in same BG?
Or maybe using something like Premade Av enabler (which is really the same but done by an addon)?
I mean, this CAN BE DONE, is not a bug, lots of people did it on retail (for queueing AV for instance) but maybe you consider is not in tone with the PvP you want to build (since this is not blizzlike anymore). So i think it would be good if you specify what is an abuse and what not.
There are some premade restrictions, and queueing at the same time jumps over them, so might be banneable, in any case a warning from the staff or a clarification would be great just to build some security.
Leaving in players hands the interpretation of whats tricky or abuse and whats not may cause a lot of people to get banned.
Besides, if this point is clear, all players could report people using this abuse, in case it is considered like that.
Thanks.
Or maybe using something like Premade Av enabler (which is really the same but done by an addon)?
I mean, this CAN BE DONE, is not a bug, lots of people did it on retail (for queueing AV for instance) but maybe you consider is not in tone with the PvP you want to build (since this is not blizzlike anymore). So i think it would be good if you specify what is an abuse and what not.
There are some premade restrictions, and queueing at the same time jumps over them, so might be banneable, in any case a warning from the staff or a clarification would be great just to build some security.
Leaving in players hands the interpretation of whats tricky or abuse and whats not may cause a lot of people to get banned.
Besides, if this point is clear, all players could report people using this abuse, in case it is considered like that.
Thanks.
Last edited by PhilipRed on Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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PhilipRed
- Senior Sergeant
Re: Update regarding PvP
jeffkohut wrote:I wish the changes could only be applied to level 60 bgs. I enjoy playing a level 29 twink and this change is going to seriously effect people under level 60 as people will simply queue WSG and AB will become a rarity. I liked being able to queue both battlegrounds as I am willing to join either BG as soon as possible. I can't get past rank 3 due to level so I don't see any exploit besides being able to leave WSG and join AB if AB popped in the middle of a bg.
If technically possible, that'd be better I guess
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Dreez
- Knight-Lieutenant
Re: Update regarding PvP
Can you frogs stop being so fucking vague. I don't even PvP anymore but stop using langue like trickery. Are you twelve? Just fucking say what you mean this change is also so late all you are doing is hurting new players. Five months too late, good job!
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Badtank
- Sergeant Major