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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Awkwardlol » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:12 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:
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smilkovpetko wrote:Now you Talk about Chromaggus . ... Imagine the Holy Threats when get Weak by Holy Spells!?!?!?!>... That would go beyond your illusion in this fight. using 250 spell damage.

Chromaggus' skin can "shimmer", changing his vulnerability to a particular school of magic. If you have CTRA it will help you know when his vulnerability changes and identify it when it is found.

This can make our Threats 2 times more than your Warrior Threats if we are "Equal" geared.


Chromaggus, Holy Vulnerability? Haha, please man, quit while you still have your dignity intact.

jk, you're clueless.


http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Chromaggus

Shimmer

Chromaggus' skin can "shimmer", changing his vulnerability to a particular school of magic. If you have CTRA it will help you know when his vulnerability changes and identify it when it is found.

(The only fight which does not cite which ability is excluded) unlike Ossirian this Boss variate within all Schools (including holy weakness) .


Yeah, you have now proven once again that you are indeed, incompetent. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Chromaggus can be vulnerable to Fire, Frost, Shadow, Nature, Arcane - If you didn't know this, welcome to Vanilla.

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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:16 pm

Awkwardlol wrote:;



Chromaggus can be vulnerable to Fire, Frost, Shadow, Nature, Arcane - If you didn't know this, welcome to Vanilla.

I am expecting Evidence for this that doesn't work with holy. ... if you don't bring me single evidence for this particular Boss i get proved that you are the clueless here.

Wowiki.com says in which fight Holy is removed , excluded or gained....

In this case there is no pure evidence or cite about Chromaggus Schools if it exclude holy or not.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by sidesprang » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:18 pm

You link me a screen from a dead boss, that does not show me how much TPS you did only how much threat you did. Just a useless screen.

Anyhow just prove to me that you can do 65k threat in 1m35sec sustained and i'll agree that paladins can do same threat as warrior.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:23 pm

sidesprang wrote:You link me a screen from a dead boss, that does not show me how much TPS you did only how much threat you did. Just a useless screen.

Anyhow just prove to me that you can do 65k threat in 1m35sec sustained and i'll agree that paladins can do same threat as warrior.


The mana used on my calculation would be swallowed by Half Less or even lesser than half of the calculations.

This mean = All the mana i have goes toward Consecration which is not included into my Calculations and is Extremely Aggro Maker compare to any other Ability that we have (except Exorcism which is stronger than this and ask half mana than this) .

5k Mana = 10 Consecrations Max Ranks more/less .
5k Mana = over 20 (but i assume their mana would most likely be 76) so by my assumptions that would mean over 60 Judges of Righteousness that multiply by Far from Spell Coefficient compare to all abilities and get its damage increased by JoTc and one-handed weapon specialization.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Awkwardlol » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:28 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:
Awkwardlol wrote:;



Chromaggus can be vulnerable to Fire, Frost, Shadow, Nature, Arcane - If you didn't know this, welcome to Vanilla.

I am expecting Evidence for this that doesn't work with holy. ... if you don't bring me single evidence for this particular Boss i get proved that you are the clueless here.

Wowiki.com says in which fight Holy is removed , excluded or gained....

In this case there is no pure evidence or cite about Chromaggus Schools if it exclude holy or not.


Hahahaha, jesus christ. You have lost the plot bud, that's 1 more strike. [--------|-]

Just because you asked and I am a very nice guy:
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22276 - Dummy Effect
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=23646 - Reduction to Damage

And to show you there's 5 Schools of Damage Increase (Frost, Fire, Arcane, Shadow, Nature)
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22277
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22278
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22279
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22280
http://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?spell=22281

Oh, I forgot, you go by whatever you make up in your dream world and all of the spells above are all wrong, they dont belong to Chromaggus at all!

jk, you're clueless

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Edit2: I'm going to get in before some shit reply that includes somehow that Spells in the Database is all wrong
Edit3: In before reported for wow-one database links to prove he's handicapped
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:44 pm

It is true that only Ossirian's Wiki page specifically states that that his weakness doesn't include Holy Weakness:

Supreme Mode - Ossirian begins the fight in supreme mode, where he does huge melee damage. To "dispel" the supreme mode, crystals will pop up around the zone that when activated will debuff him and make him weak to a particular school of magic. Note that holy damage is exempt from any magic resistance or weakness in this fight.

I was under the impression that Chromaggus was under the same category.

Granted that I would always focus on cleansing and Auto-Attacking with Seal of the Crusader and Judgement of Wisdom up to pay particular attention to his vulnerabilities, I could be wrong if Duki says that Chormmaggus does in fact have a Holy Weakness at times in his resistance/weakness rotation.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Awkwardlol » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:46 pm

Theloras wrote:It is true that only Ossirian's Wiki page specifically states that that his weakness doesn't include Holy Weakness:

Supreme Mode - Ossirian begins the fight in supreme mode, where he does huge melee damage. To "dispel" the supreme mode, crystals will pop up around the zone that when activated will debuff him and make him weak to a particular school of magic. Note that holy damage is exempt from any magic resistance or weakness in this fight.

I was under the impression that Chromaggus was under the same category.

Granted that I would always focus on cleansing and Auto-Attacking with Seal of the Crusader and Judgement of Wisdom up to pay particular attention to his vulnerabilities, I could be wrong if Duki says that Chormmaggus does in fact have a Holy Weakness at times in his resistance/weakness rotation.


Could be wrong? When is he ever right? Are you going to deny that the evidence i gave you isn't enough to show you that there is no Holy Vulnerability, could you please show me the Spell ID of the Vulnerability?

At least admit when you are wrong, as you posted pages back to some other guy, god damn.

Edit1: In before saying i am attacking you personally (jk, don't get mad)
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:54 pm

Awkwardlol wrote:
Theloras wrote:It is true that only Ossirian's Wiki page specifically states that that his weakness doesn't include Holy Weakness:

Supreme Mode - Ossirian begins the fight in supreme mode, where he does huge melee damage. To "dispel" the supreme mode, crystals will pop up around the zone that when activated will debuff him and make him weak to a particular school of magic. Note that holy damage is exempt from any magic resistance or weakness in this fight.

I was under the impression that Chromaggus was under the same category.

Granted that I would always focus on cleansing and Auto-Attacking with Seal of the Crusader and Judgement of Wisdom up to pay particular attention to his vulnerabilities, I could be wrong if Duki says that Chormmaggus does in fact have a Holy Weakness at times in his resistance/weakness rotation.


Could be wrong? When is he ever right? Are you going to deny that the evidence i gave you isn't enough to show you that there is no Holy Vulnerability?

At least admit when you are wrong, as you posted pages back to some other guy, god damn.

Edit1: In before saying i am attacking you personally (jk, don't get mad)


I never said I was wrong to the other poster - we merely agreed to disagree that based on all of the evidence both sides of the argument had merit.

We agreed that in TBC, spell dmg scaling was removed from legacy vanilla items and that the blizzard GM response on its own wasn't enough to prove that the items scaled with spell dmg and that the video wasn't enough to prove that they didn't scale with spell dmg - since we don't know if the video was on an actual retail blizzard server or a private server at the time or if the scaling fluctuated from scaling to not scaling or vice versa at any given point during Vanilla.

Without Patch notes stating in clear details one way or the other, both sides of the argument for and against scaling were made. In the end, the Peenix Devs removed scaling due to the scourge of Fire Rgoues destroying everyone in PvP to which I agreed with seeing as it was in the best interest of the server, regardless of the evidence that I was able to find.

As far as Chromaggus having a Holy Vulnerability (whether a Peenix specific bug or blizzlike and working as intended) Duki sent me a PM saying:

I hate that i didn't screenshot or recorded this particular fight - or else you would see that i was always with Maintank on aggro careful to not overaggro him in this fight when Holy Vulnerability comes.

Personally, I can't say one way or the other as I was primarily focused on cleansing the melee in that given fight to pay attention to particular weaknesses/vulnerabilities.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Awkwardlol » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:58 pm

Theloras wrote:As far as Chromaggus having a Holy Vulnerability (whether a Peenix specific bug or blizzlike and working as intended) Duki sent me a PM saying:

I hate that i didn't screenshot or recorded this particular fight - or else you would see that i was always with Maintank on aggro careful to not overaggro him in this fight when Holy Vulnerability comes.

Personally, I can't say one way or the other as I was primarily focused on cleansing the melee in that given fight to pay attention to particular weaknesses/vulnerabilities.


Which part of there is 5 spells that increases damage done on Chromaggus, which belongs to the schools i already listed you. Since Killerduki doesn't understand there isn't a 6th Elemental Shield to increase Holy Damage, it's because it doesn't exist.

How can you disagree with this? Killerduki is obviously ashamed to have been made a fool out of, I apologize for that, however it doesn't make him any less wrong. He needs to be made an example out of. If you talk shit, you get hit.

However, i thought you both were able to admit when you were wrong, even though it happens "rarely" as you said yourself. This time is apparently "rare".

Unless you both are hypocritical?
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:04 pm

Awkwardlol wrote:
Theloras wrote:As far as Chromaggus having a Holy Vulnerability (whether a Peenix specific bug or blizzlike and working as intended) Duki sent me a PM saying:

I hate that i didn't screenshot or recorded this particular fight - or else you would see that i was always with Maintank on aggro careful to not overaggro him in this fight when Holy Vulnerability comes.

Personally, I can't say one way or the other as I was primarily focused on cleansing the melee in that given fight to pay attention to particular weaknesses/vulnerabilities.


Which part of there is 5 spells that increases damage done on Chromaggus, which belongs to the schools i already listed you. Since Killerduki doesn't understand there isn't a 6th Elemental Shield to increase Holy Damage, it's because it doesn't exist.
How can you disagree with this? Killerduki is obviously ashamed to have been made a fool out of, I apologize for that, however it doesn't make him any less wrong.

However, i thought you both were able to admit when you were wrong, even though it happens "rarely" as you said yourself. This time is apparently "rare".
Unless you both are also hypocritical?


I'm not being hypocritical - I'm merely stating that let's test it out and see - let's get a Prot Paladin to off tank Chromaggus, Fraps it and let's see what happens.

I've already stated that I was under the impression that he had no Holy Weakness which is why I sent Duki a PM to ask and I posted his reply.

Otherwise, it may have been a bug on Peenix's part or one that's similarly found here on Nostalrius since they are all based on the same original private server emulated core.

- edit -

I'm not sure if Duki still has his Paladin on Peenix or not to test there but I know I can't play there since my toon got banned last year for telling Athairne to go fuck himself.

At any rate, here on Nostalrius Duki is still level 40 and I'm in a newly merged raiding guild so I dunno when we will be able to attempt Chromaggus.
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