I only made mention of it in the first place as an example of flawed spell damage coefficients that occur on private servers. You were the one who made to raise an issue out of this subpoint to declare your own superiority (quote: "To say I know more about how spells/abilities work more than you would be the understatement of the century...") and when I presented evidence of you being wrong, you simply refused to acknowledge it. I have provided more evidence from the thottbot, and you are refusing to acknowledge that as well. The Blizzard Rep response is not something you can simply "agree to go separate ways on" because this is not a matter of opinion. This is a matter of evidence. When the representative tells you he has no official information and can offer you nothing more than a rumor he heard in the past, that is not something you can take as hard fact. You can keep mentioning the rep over and over again, but the fact remains it is hearsay by the rep's own admission. Hardly proof no matter how many times you want to slap the name Blizzard on a guy who just told you he has no official data. On the other hand, I have presented you with multiple instances of evidence that Storm Gauntlets did not scale by people posting the numbers. You are still having a hard time admitting that the thottbot comments so much as exist, I see, and that speaks very badly of you.
As for Oil of Immolation, that is a different type of item altogether. That one was designed to behave as a spell in the first place (Immolation was a WC3 spell) until the scaling proved why this was a bad idea. On the other hand, Storm Gauntlets and the like were clearly intended to provide static damage per swing.
Seal Twisting is still irrelevant. I understand what you're trying to do. You're trying to defend your character because you cannot distinguish between an attack on your position and an attack on your person. To you, defending yourself proves your argument and defending your argument proves your self-worth. It's a common mistake by self-absorbed twits. However, to logical persons, it does not work that way since Seal Twisting remains irrelevant because the issue at hand is spell damage coefficients on items, not seal twisting, and not your fool pride. Forget about your pride, because frankly I don't give a damn. None of us do.
Theloras wrote:everyone needs to realize that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
"Everyone needs to realize." Strong language does not constitute a strong argument. And if you can repeat yourself, so can I:
Aethelwulf wrote:You know Theloras, if you're going to try to sound smart, at least make sure to understand what you are saying. Lets list the amount of things wrong with this.Congratulations, now you are reaching for a poisoning the well fallacy by making assumptions about my behavior on Feenix. I was never on Feenix. I'm sure it's comforting to insist that everyone who considers you a moron is a troll determined to hound you, but consider the simpler possibility that you are actually a moron and your disinformation makes people feel the need to correct you.
- What you are attempting to do with this phrase is declare "If you can't prove it isn't true, I still have a point." You know you're losing an argument when you're resorting to this to plead your case.
- You are misunderstanding the principles of falsifiability and burdens of proof in an argument. Simply because "absence of evidence is not proof of absence" does not mean that "absence of disproof is proof of existence" either. Feel free to google the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" for an example. You need to prove why you are right in the first place.
- I actually do have evidence of absence. Refusing to acknowledge it doesn't make it go away.
- That phrase is a brightline for deductive reasoning. Absence of evidence can still be indicative of absence in matters of inductive reasoning. For instance, Storm Gauntlets are a shaman item. Vanilla WoW players numbered in the millions such as can be inferred there existed a sufficiently large body of shaman players who used Storm Gauntlets. Spell damage scaling is extremely powerful. Shamans gear spell damage and would notice the scaling. Players gravitate towards more powerful builds. Therefore, if Storm Gauntlets scaled, it is extremely probable that players would have both noticed and popularized it. As per modus tollendo tollens, if there is no recognition of it scaling, that would indicate Storm Gauntlets did not scale. (This logic can also be applied with Fiery Retributer and Fiery Plate Gauntlets for Paladins. To a lesser extent also Blazefury Medallion for Druids.)
You still haven't given an answer to any of this either.
