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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:26 am

Ana wrote:Just for the record, if you keep "countering" everything people say with "arguments" such as "Spell Damage Weapon Give 3x Warrior Threat", noone sane is going to take you seriously.

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their "arguments"?

i have "evidences" .

Which one proves ? Evidences or Arguments?

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I have never seen any evidences by those who come always and bring arguments.
They just come trashtalk nonsense based on garbage theory/math and "what people say" spreading wrong informations and lies about paladins..
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:44 am

smilkovpetko wrote:Starter rotation as i mention on previous post= Judgement of Crusade , Seal of Righteousness drink coffee until the end of the fight.

Maximum mana used 500 at beginning only..

Judgement of crusade refresh each swing you do so there is no point to reapply. Seal of Righteousness cost low mana and you need to use each 30 seconds ........ 30 seconds your mana will regen twice from bow.

Hm, I overlooked that. Been way too long. In that case, the mana should be a non-issue. However, this was neglecting the use of Consecration, Holy Shield, etc. which are typical Paladin aggro-building tools. The question remains: how do you build up threat comparable to a Warrior without going oom?

How did you conclude Trash Blade or Ironfoe?

So we can build up faster Rage?! hahahahhahaha

When i said strongest spell damage weapon , that means as much spell damage as we can get. Because it's Holy damage that make us Aggro Machine , not the melee.

...You're really being an idiot here. I was recommending them so that you land more Seal of Righteousness damage for threat. You still haven't explained how you intend to be getting so much threat compared to a Warrior, by the way.

Did you even check the link i posted you when you requested to see gear?

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or you ignore comments same way like i will ignore you right now for talking nonsense .

I did. The numbers don't appear to be adding up and a lot of gear will be passed to Warriors first. Now I suppose that as a Paladin tank you could make looting easier on yourself by doing these dungeon runs without Warriors so that you're the only one who gets to roll on it. In short bursts you can afford to burn more mana anyway. If you try buying your gear off of the AH though you will be spending a long time farming gold for this shit.

smilkovpetko wrote:
Ana wrote:Just for the record, if you keep "countering" everything people say with "arguments" such as "Spell Damage Weapon Give 3x Warrior Threat", noone sane is going to take you seriously.

/thread


their "arguments"?

i have "evidences".

Evidence doesn't absolve you of the need to explain yourself and neither does your "evidence" necessarily prove anything. I can't help but recall the amount of times people tried to "prove" maintanking paladins are good by linking aoe tanking Paladins. You use the word evidence as though it means "I don't have to explain myself, have a link, now I have won the argument." It's utterly daft.

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/11537893_10152922418035418_1125402418581393890_o.jpg

A warrior only needs to do 50% more white damage than you to output more aggro with his auto than the Paladin with his seal.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:51 am

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:44 pm

From what I can tell your white hits typically do SoR hits for half the damage.
With Imp Righteous Fury we could say that you get roughly double aggro from white hits.
The numbers don't appear to be adding up and a lot of gear will be passed to Warriors first.


All your statements about Paladins dies here.

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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:07 pm

Feel free to explain that link, because I'm not seeing anything proven there.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:14 pm

Aethelwulf wrote:Feel free to explain that link, because I'm not seeing anything proven there.



by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:44 pm

From what I can tell your white hits typically do SoR hits for half the damage.
With Imp Righteous Fury we could say that you get roughly double aggro from white hits.
The numbers don't appear to be adding up and a lot of gear will be passed to Warriors first.


Man i really want everyone to read what you just write :)
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:19 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Image

You know, when you're the one who makes brilliant arguments like "I have a screenshot, therefore I have proven everything. I don't even need to explain myself." "I have proven Paladins are great maintanks. Look: Paladins AoE tanking trash mobs." and "Spell Damage Weapon Give 3x Warrior Threat."... Perhaps you shouldn't resort to this sort of nonsense.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:28 pm

Aethelwulf wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:Image

You know, when you're the one who makes brilliant arguments like "I have a screenshot, therefore I have proven everything. I don't even need to explain myself." "I have proven Paladins are great maintanks. Look: Paladins AoE tanking trash mobs." and "Spell Damage Weapon Give 3x Warrior Threat."... Perhaps you shouldn't resort to this sort of nonsense.


It ain't just one screenshot, video or log showing what we can do - nor is it from a "single raid" as Ihelwpvp thinks...

We have shown what a Paladin can do in a 40man raid quite well.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:43 pm

You know, there is no point in simply quoting the post directly above yours. It's a tad obnoxious.

And yes, we are all very aware that Paladins can AoE tank in 40man raids.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:48 pm

Aethelwulf wrote:You know, there is no point in simply quoting the post directly above yours. It's a tad obnoxious.

And yes, we are all very aware that Paladins can AoE tank in 40man raids.


I was replying to your post with a quote - eff me for following forum thread protocol...
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Aethelwulf » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:58 pm

It's a post with a massive picture located directly above yours. Quoting is meant to serve a purpose. "Protocol" here is just code for "I don't think about it. I just do it." Please use your head and just ask yourself if it's helpful to quote a post that was already directly visible above your post, especially one with a huge picture.
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