Margarine vs Butter

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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Snautz » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:25 pm

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Proctologist wrote:none, they're both horrible fats.

Olive oil, rapeseed oil and flaxseed oil are fine(I wouldn't touch plant-based oils if you're in the US due to guaranteed GMO content)
avocado, almonds or cashews(unsalted), MCT fat(cold-pressed and NOT refined coconut fat, or oil) are all good oil, oh.. and talking about fat, the fat from the yolk in eggs.

I'd use margarine however, due to baking.
I just wouldn't recommend anyone to incorporate transfats or saturated fats in their diet(exception being MCT ones which is saturated but healthy) which butter and margarine has.

butter does contain your beloved MCTs, not to mention like 1/3 of the fats in butter is monounsaturated oleic acid (the same fat that makes up olive oil). It also contains butyric acid and CLAs yadda yadda yadda.

Why did you write an essay on shit you clearly don't know anything about? :lol:
Butter up bitches!



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There's a reason we don't use butter or margarine in fitness or bodybuilding, at least as a part of our diets.. There are exceptions for certain meals but butter is still not a viable fat-source.
I know of what you just said, but do you know how much? Very little. And CLA's doesn't have any benefits unless you go above 3-5gram a day(individual)... Also pretty useless.
You can stick to your half-assed butter, I personally never will :) unless, certain exceptions.. Of course.

Also who says that's an essay? You? Really? I think you're too buttered up bud.

Lots of postulations, not many facts being thrown around.
"We in fitness or bodybuilding" Whuuut? You can't speak on behalf of millions of people, I can even point you to articles from olympic coaches/world renown strength coaches who recommends butter, and those guys are definitely "in fitness/bodybuilding"
CLAs and butyric acids wasn't even my main arguments. Butter is 1/3 monounsaturated oleic acid and also contains MCTs. Sure olive oil is probably the overall best fat you can get, but that doesn't make butter unhealthy.

Are you one of those people who's still scared of saturated fat/fat in general? Around 50% of my daily calories are from fat and I still manage to stay lean, the anti-fat bullshit theories was debunked ages ago.
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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Niko » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:18 am

For cooking and baking ecological olive oil.
Sammiches, porridge and mashed potatoes is locally northlands made butter.
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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Hammersplat » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:47 am

butter, i would never eat margarine because it's just highly processed and not very nice. Also like lard, bacon grease and olive oil.
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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Proctologist » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:35 pm

Snautz wrote:Lots of postulations, not many facts being thrown around.
"We in fitness or bodybuilding" Whuuut? You can't speak on behalf of millions of people, I can even point you to articles from olympic coaches/world renown strength coaches who recommends butter, and those guys are definitely "in fitness/bodybuilding"
CLAs and butyric acids wasn't even my main arguments. Butter is 1/3 monounsaturated oleic acid and also contains MCTs. Sure olive oil is probably the overall best fat you can get, but that doesn't make butter unhealthy.

Are you one of those people who's still scared of saturated fat/fat in general? Around 50% of my daily calories are from fat and I still manage to stay lean, the anti-fat bullshit theories was debunked ages ago.


I can still say ''we'' because the majority of those who practice it on a daily basis DO NOT use butter or margarine in their diets.
There's better choices and ''we'' (a general statement) use those, which has also been mentioned.

You can use your butter, but I won't because it's dairy and our bodies aren't adapted for dairy products(produces lgg antibodies, you may feel bloated or your stomach irritated and such after consumption) and excess might lead to it not being digested properly.
So I try to keep that low to moderate, considering I do eat like quark/curd cheese, cottage cheese or e.g casein(milk protein) before bed.
And as mentioned before, there's way better fats. that's not processed like butter either.

Anyway, If u wanna use butter go ahead, but I'll stick to olive oil, rapseed oil, flaxseed oil, coconut fat/oil, avocado, whole eggs, unsalted nuts(almonds, cashnews) or authentic peanutbutter etc.

Sure you can refer to ''coaches'' but you do know that most coaches got their own ''Best way''?
And coaches with articles? Refering to studies? Clinical studies? I'd like to see that.
And powerlifting isn't the same as bodybuilding and certainly not the fitness concept.
If you're pursuing strength you get to overlook parts in your diet.

Staying lean is about controlling your TDEE, not how you shift your macronutrients around.
If 50% of your daily intake is from fats, alright... so? It's only 50% of your daily caloric intake.. I would never go that high on fats, I love my oatmeal, banana, rice and potatoes too much.
Here I am discussing fats and better choices of it and now you're telling me I'm afraid of fats ^_^
Why would I wanna consume mostly saturated fats or transfats? That's just ridiculous and bad, especially when I can easily get my fats in my meals from good ones, unprocessed, unsalted, no additives, just plain good fats.
And I haven't said that butter is unhealthy, just that there's better choices.


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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Snautz » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:14 am

Let's not kid ourselves. You obviously don't even know a fraction of the demographic mate, but whatever, who cares.

Again with the generalization bullshit. Yea some people doesn't function well on diary, just like some people doesn't function well on gluten etc. That doesn't make the food inherently bad. It's just bad for that particular individual.
I'm not denying the fact that there are tons of other great fats around, but better? I would say It's situational/individual, anyone noteworthy in the nutrition field would agree balance and variation is key when it comes to diet.

I commented on the fact that you called butter "a horrible fat", hoping for an elaboration, but so far all you've come up with is a bunch of fluff and some ignorant generalizations.
I think you gotta pull out your good ol' dictionary, if you think the fact that other options exists makes butter horrible.

Btw it would be logical to assume that the word 'horrible' when discussing food is the same as unhealthy, no? :?
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Re: Margarine vs Butter

by Microaggressor » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:24 am

Inserting some facts into the debate

http://authoritynutrition.com/butter-vs-margarine/
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