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by riq and snog » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:23 pm

Long story short. My pc died today... litterally. There was a buzz sound followed by a plop zing buff and smoke:-)
We had a good run i bought him in 2003 so im not mad just sad... so many good memories!
anyway im looking for a new bff but here is my problem. I havent been trough the jungle of gaming pcs for quite some times, and looking at it the numbers all look confusing.
Each pc has for example a different graphic card and processor even tough the pricing is arround the same!
I will update myself now as good as possible on the new hardware.
Here is my question for you guys:
i need some direction on what to look for in terms of numbers.
What are todays standards, where can i tweak a bit and what i dont need.

Im looking for a price between 1000 and 1500 euro
What can i get for it?
- graphic cards
-Proccessor
- Motherboard
-Cooling system
- Ddr3 or ddr4
Etc etc
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So lala , standard, good, awesome, apeshit crazy
The pc is only for gaming and i would like to play up to date games for the next 5 years fluently:-)
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Re: help request pc died

by Jackyy » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:00 pm

with that bugedt i'd buy an DDR4 RAM and a compatible Motherboard and also an decent graphic card.

just check out Benchmarks of recent Hardware.
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Re: help request pc died

by riq and snog » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:07 pm

AverageJoe wrote:http://www.logicalincrements.com/

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Re: help request pc died

by Chillout » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:46 pm

Does this include monitor & peripherals? Don't go DDR4 route, I did 5820k build with 16gb ddr4, 2x970 for around 2300€. Not the cheapest way to go around.

Generally I suggest Xeon E3-1231 v3 if not overclocking, it's basically i7 without integrated graphics and clock speed. Then there's i5 4690k or i7 4790k, latter if doing more heavy stuff like streaming.

Amd is supposedly coming out with new gpu very soon so hard to say about that but if you wanna be safe side with drivers then nvidia gtx 970/980. There's also new gtx 980 ti coming which is bit steep in price.

There's huge price differences if comparing europe to US so would help to see where you're buying it from.
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Re: help request pc died

by riq and snog » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:06 pm

Chillout wrote:Does this include monitor & peripherals? Don't go DDR4 route, I did 5820k build with 16gb ddr4, 2x970 for around 2300€. Not the cheapest way to go around.

Generally I suggest Xeon E3-1231 v3 if not overclocking, it's basically i7 without integrated graphics and clock speed. Then there's i5 4690k or i7 4790k, latter if doing more heavy stuff like streaming.

Amd is supposedly coming out with new gpu very soon so hard to say about that but if you wanna be safe side with drivers then nvidia gtx 970/980. There's also new gtx 980 ti coming which is bit steep in price.

There's huge price differences if comparing europe to US so would help to see where you're buying it from.


Thanks for the input. Im buying european timezone.
So far my plan is to get up to date with all available sources for the components, then decide what i want/
need an then buying all components at cheapest price and build it together by myself.

So keep the suggesstions coming:-)
Work in progress:-)
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Re: help request pc died

by flashback » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:09 pm

Hey, I can help with it...
First of all, whitch goals you gonna achieve with it?
If its gonna be a gaming pc or all-in-one highend, you need one of highest inter core i5 (it should be enougth to play all the new games for next 3-4 years at high-end settings), 16 gb ram (dd3 only, cause ddr4 sucks at this moment), nvidia 8 or 9 series. Also needs to be ssd and hdd. With OS Win8.1
Other buddies here have told about Xeon, i7 and other expensive stuff. Its useless. While gaming you cant see the difference between top of i5 and i7, between gtx860 and gtx960.
A lot of ideas about good configuration here. But, the "highest pc" is not good as well as "lowest". For example, this game, wow 1.12 was developed for directx9. Modern videocards supports d3d9 in emulation mode, not native. Last week Ive tested a new, almost high-end pc. So, there was gtx960. Im used to play vanilla wow at amd 7850. And my, not the new and not the old video comparing with 960 has better perfomance with vanilla.
So, you choose. My advice is to buy as top as possible, but not with ddr4. Ddr3 is still better (with freq 1600 and higher). And not with AMD cpu - its not for gaming, even if its "top".
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Re: help request pc died

by skitszo » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:41 pm

1) The reason DDR4 is not good for home PC's right now is the latency timings offsets any value to the home PC. Its more for servers and saving energy. so the 1600 DDR3 is good advice as anything higher only benefits AMD APU's.

2) The question of what you are gonna use the computer for is relevant. Minimum you want to have 4 logical core system; middle of the road is an I5. I7 will help you multi task more but its more for how you intend to use it or not.

3) are you gonna overclock or not?

4) windows 8.1 is the cheapest you can get and up comig months will be able to get the windows 10 upgrade.

5) 240 SSD with secondary harddrive for storage is nice.

6) build your own.....I'm guessing thats what you are planning.

7) do some research.

http://www.tomshardware.com/

8) play around building your own- just choose the CPU first and the compatibility filter should catch the rest.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/


not sure what else to tell ya..... you want the haswell that was rehashed in 2014 over the ones in 2013 as the prices generally are the same. if your waiting a few weeks the new broadwell desktop cpu's are coming and you could try using the IRIS pro APU before buying a graphics card. read about that on tomshardware page. I would pair intel with Nvidia products.
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Re: help request pc died

by riq and snog » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:20 am

Thanks for all the feedback guys really apprechiate it.
As stated in post number 1 the pc is solemly used for entertainment! laptop for workxD
Anyway i made up my mind and found decent gear at the total cost of 700 something euro... now just gotta wait for them to arrive and then my gnomeslaves will do the rest:-)
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