Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by AverageJoe » Wed May 06, 2015 7:57 pm

g0dl1k3 wrote:These 2 people do not know what they are doing and I believe they are hurting server as a whole.
They are very inconstant on their activities regarding warnings and bans on the forum. They also both edit post for no good reason, discouraging actual discussion, and encouraging a mindless circlejerk.
They edit and hand out forum warnings to some, and then leave other post un-edited, I think it is more than obvious they dont know how to be a GM or forum moderator.
The warnings they give are completely uncalled for. I can only guess that they edit and ban certain users based of off a personal vendeta, I dont know what else the reasoning could be.


The FAQs and Terms of Use make it quite clear what conduct is and isn't acceptable on both the forums and in-game. As noted in WraithReaver's post, GMs can, without warning, delete, move, and edit posts they deem necessary; that's what users agree to when they sign up and interact with Nostalrius.

You can easily tell which posts a GM modifies by the note appended to the bottom. Pottu and other GMs are even courteous enough to give the reason why they edited a post as opposed to keeping it secret. Also, seeing GMs moderate some posts but not others isn't necessarily an indication of selective moderation. This is a voluntary server where people are using their free time when available to aid the community; they can't be everywhere all at once or at all times of the day.

g0dl1k3 wrote:I have spoke with many other players in game and almost all agree that they would like to see these 2 go, they make this forum an un-interesting place as less and less people will post here and the ones that do will be in constant fear of these 2 clowns editing there posts.


Argumentum ad populum. Just because you "spoke with many other players" and they "almost all agree" with seeing two GMs go does not make for a solid case to do so. If you want to bring about change in the community, you'll have to present a more compelling case based on something a little more concrete than whining on the forums. From everything I've seen, the GMs are doing a good job in maintaining a level of quality on the forums and responding to account-related inquiries in a timely manner based on their needs. If you have evidence that speaks otherwise, I'd love to see it, but until such a thing surfaces, this amounts to little more than a pissing contest.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by Mdmadam » Wed May 06, 2015 8:21 pm

Coot wrote:
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GMs or Mods should not be allowed to make toons either. There's something eerie and about that, you don't let Dungeon Master's make a player character either.


Dumbest thing I've read all week


Then you've never been on Facebook.

How is that dumb? I don't trust most people, plain and simple. Don't blame me, blame society.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by Mdmadam » Wed May 06, 2015 8:24 pm

Zyfire wrote:
Mdmadam wrote:White knight detected.

Also how can you should proof of something that was already edited?

GMs or Mods should not be allowed to make toons either. There's something eerie and about that, you don't let Dungeon Master's make a player character either.


Even GMs in retail have their own accounts to play on...


Last time I checked this wasn't retail. GMs have to pay for a sub on retail like everyone else and there's a huge difference in attitude and professionalism when money is involved.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by t3hpwn3r3r » Wed May 06, 2015 8:43 pm

I had a post removed by Pottu the other day. Reason? He didn't think it was funny.

To be fair, what I posted did violate the terms of use of the forum, and THAT is the reason that should have been given, not his personal opinion on the content of my post. Unfortunately, I suspect there's no distinction between these two things in the eyes of Pottu the Mall Cop, which is a shame because one makes him look competent, and the other makes him look like an utter dickhead. I mean, it takes a special kind of delusional asshat to believe that you alone decide for the entire human race what is and isn't funny.

Link: https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 0&start=10

tl;dr Pottu is incompetent.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by g0dl1k3 » Wed May 06, 2015 8:58 pm

i love how this was moved to off topic from suggestions
how is this off topic?
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by riq and snog » Wed May 06, 2015 9:06 pm

Butthurt detected!
1 u state the crap u wrote was against TOS
2 Sarcasm edit
3 u cry

Tell u what, GMs are human too!
and while they act with proffessionalism towards 99% of the playerbase, sometimes, against the amount of toxic trolls, there is a point where respect is lost!
Take Ogtucker for example.
He litteraly posts against TOS in every topic hes in.
This is a WoW forum with TOS!
deal with it.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by Pottu » Wed May 06, 2015 9:09 pm

t3hpwn3r3r wrote:tl;dr Pottu is incompetent.


Probably foolish of me to respond to anything in this thread, but since you asked about a specific post, I'll answer - and that answer is "because I was being sarcastic". Your post, just like the one made by Mdmadam, were against the rules. Because I thought that the both of you thought you were being funny by dragging the joke that pmizz started over the limit, I wrote "not funny" instead of "don't spam insults"
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by OGTUCKER117 » Wed May 06, 2015 9:17 pm

riq and snog wrote:Butthurt detected!
1 u state the crap u wrote was against TOS
2 Sarcasm edit
3 u cry

Tell u what, GMs are human too!
and while they act with proffessionalism towards 99% of the playerbase, sometimes, against the amount of toxic trolls, there is a point where respect is lost!
Take Ogtucker for example.
He litteraly posts against TOS in every topic hes in.
This is a WoW forum with TOS!
deal with it.

If you want to get technical with the TOS then half the post on these forums are against the TOS.
there is no reason to adopt a no fun allowed rule when it comes to the forums, it is what keeps them alive.
who wants to spend time on a forum where half the post are edited by moderators?
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by t3hpwn3r3r » Wed May 06, 2015 9:19 pm

riq and snog wrote:Butthurt detected!
1 u state the crap u wrote was against TOS
2 Sarcasm edit
3 u cry

Tell u what, GMs are human too!
and while they act with proffessionalism towards 99% of the playerbase, sometimes, against the amount of toxic trolls, there is a point where respect is lost!
Take Ogtucker for example.
He litteraly posts against TOS in every topic hes in.
This is a WoW forum with TOS!
deal with it.


Now who's butthurt?

I don't give a shit what they have to put up with. If they can't do their job competently, then they should be replaced with someone who can. Don't like it? Tough shit.
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Re: Petition to strip Wyzel and Pottu of GM powers.

by t3hpwn3r3r » Wed May 06, 2015 9:23 pm

Pottu wrote:
t3hpwn3r3r wrote:tl;dr Pottu is incompetent.


Probably foolish of me to respond to anything in this thread, but since you asked about a specific post, I'll answer - and that answer is "because I was being sarcastic". Your post, just like the one made by Mdmadam, were against the rules. Because I thought that the both of you thought you were being funny by dragging the joke that pmizz started over the limit, I wrote "not funny" instead of "don't spam insults"


Thanks for the explanation.

However, your personal opinions on the content of people's posts are irrelevant when moderating. Just stick to the terms of use and you'll have the respect of myself and the forum; giving us a glimpse into the size of your ego will not.
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