Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Bearier » Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:41 pm

Absolutely looking forward to it, cardinal.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:29 pm

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... te-952016/

Good afternoon,

Just a quick update of where we're at right now and what's left to do before Beta.

This has been a bit of a slow one since half our staff are addicted to Legion. Typically they aren't around the staff chat much, sometimes they pop in and say one or two words about Legion and then vanish again for hours/days, so I have no idea what progress has actually been made on the core side since Legion launched. My assumption is that they will get bored at some point and get back to communicating eventually. Until then, we'll just go with the most recent information I have.


In this case, the broken spells fall almost exclusively into two categories. About half of them are due to the system not recognizing a debuff as a negative effect, so it is applied as a buff which the player can simply click off.


The old system for doing this was really hacky and terrible, Asura rewrote it, but we're still working on figuring out the optimal way to do this, so we expect this to be a bit buggy for now. The other major category is bad "implicit targets", or spells that mobs cast on the wrong target. Ie, Frenzied Command buffing the target instead of the caster. This is similar to the first one in terms of adjusting targeting. There are a handful of other one-offs where spells have a dummy effect that requires a server-side script to function properly, or broken proc rates on some proc-based spells.


Anyways, on the brighter side, I'll post those clips here and you can see some of the AI in action. It's not perfect yet but we're pretty happy with it so far.


There's a bug whereby characters occasionally get stuck on the loading screen. The only way out of this is to force quit the client. When you try to log back in, it tells you the character is already in the game, and it won't let you delete it, the character remains stuck there until the server is reset. That's major bug #1


The second major bug has to do with AFK players. I don't completely understand this, so I may be a bit off here, but to the best of my knowledge, there's a packet called Standstate that tells the server whether a character is standing or sitting. For some reason an AFK player will occasionally spam the server with this packet so hard that the server crashes.



The same person that claims "Holy Resistance should exist" in items with "All resistance" . :D

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... mment=9192

Progress has been a bit slow the past week, but it's not really on Legion to blame.. I've been sick the past week, so I haven't been capable of doing much, thus the Legion grind. We're still looking decent, but some staff is on vacation, some staff(like me) are sick, and some non-development staff are enjoying Legion. It's a mix of different things. Things will be back on track soon.


Because some of us look past the nostalgia factor and realize not all game changes were bad, especially considering how broken and unpolished vanilla itself was. Yeah, anything past WOTLK has been terrible, but Legion in itself is pretty enjoyable. Also, considering we do this for free, telling us to be more professional by not playing something we enjoy is pretty sad.


Reminds me on their former disbanded server and anything related to it they hiding.

So long with your famous most awesome server in the world claiming they are better than Nostalrius and telling everyone that Nostalrius had many things wrong.

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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Cardinalsin » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:37 pm

So you see, the plan was that you would shill on your own threads and take your erroneous opinions on other servers to yourself. Clearly you're incapable of doing this. As always, to point out the obvious....

It will be about 3+ months before Crestfall is launched. Anyone wanting to get an impression to see how professional it's going to be can just pop onto the forums here http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/

You can make a comparison on those forums with any other server. You can look at the updates every week from the developers with good news and sometimes the bad news. You can look at how the community continues to grow and prosper.

Alternatively, you can listen to shills with chips on their shoulders like poor Duki.

Make your own mind up, plenty of time to do so
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Bearier » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:21 pm

Smilk, get over yourself dude. Yes, we get it. You're an angry pvp Ret Paladin nerd who can't get over the fact that they're keeping Holy Resistance on All Resist, which by the way NOBODY USES IN PVP.

Stop trying to slander projects that you know NOTHING about just because you're obsessed with playing some Retard paladin in vanilla.

Seriously, get a f*cking job and do something positive for a change with your life.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by PeaceHammer » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:32 pm

I love the transparency and communication of the Crestfall project.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Cardinalsin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:17 pm

Greets.

Latest update on the emulator is here:
http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/584-asuras-update-september-12th-2016/
Nice level of detail worth reading through.

This is from the main administrator, the developer in chief will post an update later today.

Still think closed Beta is off until October, open Beta probably end November with a PTR around Christmas.
So Q1 2017 feels about right for realm launches.

Just to remind everyone that they will have both PvE and and PvP realms
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by bobmasculo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:31 pm

What this server propagates should not be rejected by the community , like it or not the Chinese treatment given to these players is unacceptable .

Interestingly this server , is that the owners have taken that are racist , I frankly do not recommend playing .
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:59 pm

bobmasculo wrote:What this server propagates should not be rejected by the community , like it or not the Chinese treatment given to these players is unacceptable .

Interestingly this server , is that the owners have taken that are racist , I frankly do not recommend playing .


No they arent. Just stop this nonsense. Asura even acknowledged how others servers have had a problem with racism and why its a real issue in the scene and that they are aware of it. They just made a decision to open up a seperate server that is chinese only if there is a big demand for it. It has to do with the language barrier as well as protecting the server population load (which will be capped), economy and goldselling (which of course not only chinese do). Now if they were to say stuff like. We dont like chinese so we block them. Then thats a big problem of course, but they never said anything like that. They said they will open and keep up a whole server (which isnt free btw) only for the sake of offering the chinese population a place to play.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by bobmasculo » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:33 pm

Magnifican wrote:
bobmasculo wrote:What this server propagates should not be rejected by the community , like it or not the Chinese treatment given to these players is unacceptable .

Interestingly this server , is that the owners have taken that are racist , I frankly do not recommend playing .


No they arent. Just stop this nonsense. Asura even acknowledged how others servers have had a problem with racism and why its a real issue in the scene and that they are aware of it. They just made a decision to open up a seperate server that is chinese only if there is a big demand for it. It has to do with the language barrier as well as protecting the server population load (which will be capped), economy and goldselling (which of course not only chinese do). Now if they were to say stuff like. We dont like chinese so we block them. Then thats a big problem of course, but they never said anything like that. They said they will open and keep up a whole server (which isnt free btw) only for the sake of offering the chinese population a place to play.



He went to the head that has Chinese who preferred playing with everyone who does not want to be in a unique server chine . You know people make friends , connections .


Believe the vast majority of play is not racist , are not all the Chinese who have language problems This is racism if it were the case he could have opened another server for those who want to transfer but blocked an entire people . This attitude is little more than junk , I repeat avoid this server is not worth it .



Who will be next ?

Brazilians by a minority is delayed with the " ueueue - i report you"

The Russians ? why some do not like the attitude of a minority.

The Germans that their grandparents were Nazis ? na.. maby the owners of this server like this past.

Blacks .. maybe they fear that someone steal the server on a bicycle.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Cardinalsin » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:42 pm

Hi Bob.

You are completely clueless on this issue I'm afraid.

If you had played on Nost PvP towards the end you will be familiar with the player stats from the realm. This showed that the pop was at an unsustainable level of 13k and that about 30% of that were Chinese in origin.

The top 10 guilds included 3-4 Chinese guilds and the most played class was mage. Unfortunately, the mage class was purely to allow AOE farming for gold generation.

While I'm sure the Nost GM's will disagree, the PvP server was at the point of being unplayable. Part of the reason (apart from the economy) is that the Chinese community - even apart from the gold farming element - does not speak English.

Vanilla WoW is a community game and the language of the Nost/Crestfall server is English. In Nost we had a substantial part of the community that couldn't communicate with the other and chose not to do so.

It's not racist to say this. It is the facts of life.

Crestfall is essentially an EU/NA server and English is the lingua franca. The devs/mods have a particular issue with gold farming and the banning of VPN's (at present, still to be decided as a VPN whitelist is being discussed) is a natural decision to be made to protect the integrity of the economy.

The facility to allow a Chinese realm is viable option if the Chinese community show enough interest. A Discord channel is available for wider discussions. Even still, I would suspect the server to be inundated with DDoS attacks that originate from China because of this stance.

TL;DR Crestfall is not racist. Decisions are based on previous experiences that we have all had in retail and private servers. If you are Chinese a realm will be made available if you get off your collective arses and make an effort.
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