Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Cardinalsin » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:56 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Such lovely advertising your server how Racist and Uncivil behavior they certainly allow.
Congratulation , number 1 Racist server that exist.

Crestfall is no different than Feenix and Athairne.
(insults,racism,dividing everyone in favor of few,non blizzlike,excuses,pay to win,).

Sooner or later , people will get it.


Well, seeing as the server is a few months away from launching it's a bit hard to believe you on your racist tag, particularly as your own countrymen have indicated that the use of the term ''Slav'' is not deemed racist by them. The Chinese issue is a non-event considering they have been offered their own realm if and when they get their act together.

So I'm afraid that the only thing that ''people will get it'' is that you are a very strange and particularly resilient individual that seems to be going to heroic lengths to troll a, as of yet unlaunched server.

Why are you so mad, Duki? I think you need to go to counselling or something. Surely you'd be raiding in end content at this stage if you spent more time playing on Elysium and less time reading every single post on the Crestfall forums and then copy/pasting it to back up your erroneous arguments.

And speaking of Elysium, while I wish them every success, clearly you are none too happy with the current state of play based on your own post on their forums there on the 20th September:

I hope this can be reasonable and could be possible reason of population drowning a bit.

1- Droprate of Junk items seems bit high and will / does develop inflation affecting mostly Tailoring,Cooking,Fishing values (their cost is low for this reason and useless).

2- Ores and Veins spawn too high upside and within Caves (everywhere) , mostly that happen after server Shut Down or Restart.
(Causing inflation and reducing the value of Mining/Blacksmithing which is bad on current situation). "not sure about skinning and herb".

3- Mobs flee in Caves is very problematic and causing lot wipes, asspulls , unable to complete q's etc. (people get annoyed from this).

4- Stability , very often past week we see Lags , random Disconnects , boats client crush error and Valkyrie website down . (this is also impacting negative attitude toward many especially toward new members).

5- Quest scripts and Mobs scripts , majority of them are default completing . No challenge via quest giver, no special action required , no special speech by mobs or "Roleplay" activity like people are used in Retail or Nostalrius .
(Example is Missing Diplomat).

6- Friendly Stealth NPC's (Example in Ashenvale) are meant to help you and assist you with nearby Enemy's , instead they just sit there and do nothing.

7- Lack of Advertisements for this server. (We need some people attraction and lovely Server Youtube Videos etc organize by Admins).
(Example of how Nostalrius Advertise - https://www.youtube....h?v=yStjVurkNvs ).


Perhaps i missing some other issues but i hope this will give some light and nobody get offend by this criticism. ;)

/Kind regards Killerduki


https://valkyrie-wow.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22082

My advice to you, freely given, is that you should spend more time advertising the good points behind Elysium and try and to get more players there. For example, you could use the Elysium thread in the off-topic forum on this site to highlight improvements, bug fixes and so forth. Unless of course, there is nothing to highlight.

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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:45 pm

Unlike Crestfall they accept criticism and change things to 100% Blizzlike , even if you see there is "Like" from their Admins for such "Suggestion".


Here is Crestfall attitude when you talk about fixes/changes/ :

1- They don't have Vanilla knowledge or experience.
2- Here is what they answer - http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... mment=2508

The thing is, it's not a bug for "All Resist" to include Holy. Blizzard **HARD CODED THAT INTO THE GAME CLIENT**!!! It can be bypassed, but the point is that it shouldn't be, because it was INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY. Blizzard could have done it differently very easy, but they CHOSE NOT TO.


https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 2382_o.jpg

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Just comparison between 2 servers Attitude.

Crestfall trust Private servers Data and Auras written in Modified Clients , Elysium support Blizzlike Data. That is huge difference between both servers.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:09 pm

I wouldnt go so far as to call people deranged cunts though. Pretty shitty stuff to spew around. But whatever.
Regarding Killerduki/Smilkov. If I was an Elysium dev/mod I would see his crusade as an extremely negative thing for the server I was on. As Killerduki only hurts the reputation of whatever he supports with his fanatic ways, be it non-healing paladins or a particular server or whatever really. Everyone thats been in the private server scene for awhile knows who he is and dont pay any attention to him. The only people who might listen are newcomers but they will get scared away pretty much immediately once they how people react to him.

This is the way it is. It doesnt matter if he's actually right on this or that issue, its the WAY he behaves that makes him lose each and every battle and people wont touch him with a pole.

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This isn't helpful. Also off-topic.

Would be helpful if this thread remained what it is supposed to be, a medium to advertise the server and an opportunity for detractors to denigrate it.

All very much before the event of closed Beta.

Soon.


I agree! Its to bad some people keep insisting on derailing every thread about Crestfall. I saw the same on other forums as well. You write very good and insightful posts though, thumbs up!

I honestly think Duki is mostly mad about the holy resistant thing. That debate is still on the Crestfall forum somewhere, and he got hurt feelings for it when he was rejected. It has to do with holy resist being part of all resist, which he think it shouldnt be, because it hurts ret pally and prot pally damage/threat generation. He didnt back anything up with official posts, he linked to a bunch of unoffical stuff and other (broken) private servers. He did manage, after much talk and spammy posts, to get the devs over at Elysium to change their holy res though, this is the pure reason why he is advocating that server.
Its as simple as that, Im just giving people the short version here and for those interested you can go read the forums yourselves and find out what its all about. But it boils down to this very simple fact.
I think this has nothing whatsoever to do with racism, he just uses this to bash the server. Poor fool is desperate.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:20 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:....


And regarding your last post here. Crestfall devs has agreed to fix all the pallystuff, which you can see in that post you linked, all except ONE issue. And your supposed "proof", your ticket to blizzard, doesnt prove anything. They simply state that the items are no longer in the game and therefore offer no holy resist (duh). And "if you maybe still had some, they would not offer holy res from what i've read however its old information as they were removed 2 expansions ago" .. This isnt proof man. None... The rest he talks about the current state of wow and resist. Nothing about vanilla. Nothing to go on here
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:27 pm

Magnifican wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:....

from what i've read however its old information as they were removed 2 expansions ago" .. This isnt proof man.


WoD > Pandaria > Cataclysm > Wrath of The Lich king = 2 Expansions ago removed.

Old information = Pre Wrath of the Lich King = because of logic.

Perhaps Asura have serious issues with Blizzlike , i am here to remind :

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First of all i have no influence or whatever to Elysium, it is 100% Blizzlike scripted server and that's all from the story, Crestfall is angry because they are exposed that they will not be Blizzlike with so many modifications and TBC upgrading like Feenix did.

To answer Asura because that kid have problems with Blizzlike and the meaning of Racism :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDbFBbNgyw#t=146

Video explaining Patch Release and Date Release of "Spell Delays"

https://web.archive.org/web/20141019021 ... page=6#114

even there is official post in late 2014 about it and confirm that is not Vanilla Blizzlike.

Crestfall have serious issues with Blizzlike and Attitude. 100% confirmed.

In B4 you write anything :

Asura Words.

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... 22nd-2016/

First and foremost, yesterday I wrote a basic implementation of the spell delay system that many have talked about, especially when it comes to TBC. Basically, many abilities (Self-cast and some other rules not included) have a "delay" into them. This delay is created by spells being queued for an update that processes every 400ms. So for example, if you hit a mob with curse of agony, your spell cast and everything is immediate, but actual application of the debuff can be from instant to 400ms (if you're unlucky). The same goes for healing spells(when used on a target other than yourself). This is how two mages could end up sheeping each other, two warriors charging each other, etc. It will definitely make things feel a bit different, but in a good way.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Leahs » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:52 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:stuff


Killerduki was proven wrong on CF forums when it came to a particular paladin hot topic and now he comes here to cry. I'm not surprised in the slightest.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Youfie » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:55 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Video explaining Patch Release and Date Release of "Spell Delays"

https://web.archive.org/web/20141019021 ... page=6#114

even there is official post in late 2014 about it and confirm that is not Vanilla Blizzlike.

I'm not sure I understand. In the post you linked from Blizzard, Celestalon explains how the spell delays used to work and how they were gonna put an end to it. Thus, it clearly explains it was present since vanilla and until then.

Maybe I missed something, cause you state that spell delay isn't vanilla and then post something that says the exact opposite, that's confusing. Did I read the blue post or yours wrong?
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Culpa » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:09 pm

Funnily enough I understand it the same way, Youfie. Someone else must be wrong.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:55 pm

Youfie wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:Video explaining Patch Release and Date Release of "Spell Delays"

https://web.archive.org/web/20141019021 ... page=6#114

even there is official post in late 2014 about it and confirm that is not Vanilla Blizzlike.

I'm not sure I understand. In the post you linked from Blizzard, Celestalon explains how the spell delays used to work and how they were gonna put an end to it. Thus, it clearly explains it was present since vanilla and until then.

Maybe I missed something, cause you state that spell delay isn't vanilla and then post something that says the exact opposite, that's confusing. Did I read the blue post or yours wrong?

The link with Blizzard post is from Warlords of Draenor and he speak how used to work since 3.x Patch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDbFBbNgyw#t=146

did you even watch the Video ?
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:04 pm

Leahs wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:stuff


Killerduki was proven wrong on CF forums when it came to a particular paladin hot topic and now he comes here to cry. I'm not surprised in the slightest.


I am not proven wrong at all , It is only "Crestfall" believers based on assumptions and nothing with Blizzlike related (same like Psojed in Kronos) .

Not only the Blue Post for Holy Resistance but also there are people since TBC talking about it.


http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=686 ... resistance

By Catahe on 2007/12/31 at midnight (Patch 2.3.0)


As i understand it...
Those do not raise holy resistance because holy does not count as a resistable school of magic. (let me rephrase... it is a school just not a school you can stack resistance against) just pop open ur char sheet and notice how holy is not a resistance you can have.


By Thelion on 2008/01/02 at 4:16 AM (Patch 2.3.0)

Holy is not affected by resists.It's only affected by character level difference and in some rare cases can be resisted.But even if you had like 300 to all resistances you still would take Holy damage.



But yeah = Crestfall , Holy Resistance is Blizzlike
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