Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

[smilkovpetko]

It is true, Duki is a very special person. Normal rules such as gravity, relativity, common sense and holy resistance are immune to his thought and logic process.

http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=686 ... resistance

By Catahe on 2007/12/31 at midnight (Patch 2.3.0)


As i understand it...
Those do not raise holy resistance because holy does not count as a resistable school of magic. (let me rephrase... it is a school just not a school you can stack resistance against) just pop open ur char sheet and notice how holy is not a resistance you can have.

By Thelion on 2008/01/02 at 4:16 AM (Patch 2.3.0)

Holy is not affected by resists.It's only affected by character level difference and in some rare cases can be resisted.But even if you had like 300 to all resistances you still would take Holy damage.

Meanwhile in Crestfall : http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... ad/&page=2

Not a bug. Not a bug. Not a bug.

Psojed Version 2.0

[Tobrak]

(Patch 2.3.0)

[Theoloras]

(Patch 2.3.0)

don't be a racist douche - holy resistance was removed from the game entirely during beta:

Holy resistance does not currently exist as a visible or collectible statistic in World of Warcraft. It only exists against PvE targets of a higher level. The sole means to prevent holy damage are limited to effects that affect all spells, like reduction (e.g. potions) and immunity (e.g. Divine Intervention). However Holy Resistance did exist during the World of Warcraft beta in patch 0.7.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_resistance

Holy Resistance has been replaced with Arcane Resistance.
http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_0.9

[smilkovpetko]

Shop in Crestfall :

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... no/&page=2

Secondly we're going to open methods for people to obtain items that are not obtainable through in-game methods. It's a good idea to see how much we can get with Donations at first, but people will be upset when they cannot obtain their TCG items they want.

We'll have mounts in the shop

Are these going to be a reason for people to "not play here" because we're giving players an option to receive items that are otherwise not possible on Private Servers because naturally Trading Card Game cards are not made to be used with Private Servers in mind.

It does make me surprised currently to see that items you cannot obtain in-game sold to a shop seems to be a no-go, when these items were originally buyable with real money (AND RNG, we could implement a system where people buy "packs" and get virtual cards, pray to RNGesus that you get items) only.

1. You want a shop ?
Yes
17
No
44

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... ment=11666

The only mounts you can buy are ones that aren't obtainable through other methods. We have thought about first having nothing in the shop until we remove these mounts from vendors. This was one idea we have thought about, but by no means definite nor final. As for what can be obtained in the shop are things such as TCG mounts, items that are not obtainable through in-game means, etc. We have methods of distributing TCG codes, but that's something else I plan to bring up, but we cannot replicate the original method of "selling actual cards" to generate TCG content - which is why content such as that will end up in the shop.

[Tarnum]

I have been following the project for a while now. First of all I want to say that Crestfall Devs are very professional and do amazing job to provide us with good quality server. I have to doubts this server is going to be the best out there.

The community on the forums are already big, with very nice people there (Outstanding, Elicas to name a few), it is always interesting to read most of the topics.

Dev blogs is a good way to understand what is going on with a project, so make sure to check it out.

Now I want to adress to this issue about spell delay system. I started playing WoW before TBC pre-patch came out. As I played a rogue and mainly did PvP, I remember that you could get sheeped by a mage and gouge him at the same time, or enemy rogue gouge you and you kidney shot him so you both stuck in CC.

Later in TBC you could shadwstep warriors charge/intercept, priest could shadow word: death out of polymorph/repentance etc.

Paladins in WOTLK could use judgement of seal of blood to get out of gouge/repentace/polymorph aswell.
So we had this spell delay system from the day one.

6/18/2014

Date written by Blizzard Post ^.

Yes, it was written in 2014, and states that they're changing the 400ms delay that was in the game until then, i.e. from vanilla to 2014.

They didn't said Vanilla , until then it's from Wrath of the lich king until 2014 as it is stated on Video.

This is a video of a rogue Destram from TBC (rendered on 10/05/2008):
WarcraftMovies: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=74503
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5x0MDhnZM

You can watch first minute, rogue shadowstep warriors charge. Tells me clearly that spell-delay (400 ms batch) system was there in TBC. So it just a matter of time to find this in vanilla video with some double gouge/stun/sheep.


@Killerduki
I am a retribution paladin myself. Reading your first posts about paladin mechanics and how things should be was quite interesting and I liked the fact that you defend non-healing paladins.
The only problem here is that when you go on your crusade, the way you go about it, just makes people think worse about paladins in general, you DO NOT help the situation at all. You go too far about everything.

You didn't like that Crestfall Devs rejected your so called "Evidence" about holy resistance issue and now you bash them every place you go. You just loose all respect people might have given you before...you've lost mine.

[smilkovpetko]

This is a video of a rogue Destram from TBC (rendered on 10/05/2008):
WarcraftMovies: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=74503
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5x0MDhnZM

You can watch first minute, rogue shadowstep warriors charge. Tells me clearly that spell-delay (400 ms batch) system was there in TBC. So it just a matter of time to find this in vanilla video with some double gouge/stun/sheep.

I can't see how he is dodging using the Lag, but on the Video you can clearly see that he used Trinket to release from Charge , which mean the 400 MS Batch didn't exist in TBC.

400 MS was since Wrath of the Lich King and your Video just proved that in TBC you couldn't dodge that without Trinket.

@Killerduki
I am a retribution paladin myself. Reading your first posts about paladin mechanics and how things should be was quite interesting and I liked the fact that you defend non-healing paladins.
The only problem here is that when you go on your crusade, the way you go about it, just makes people think worse about paladins in general, you DO NOT help the situation at all. You go too far about everything.

Feel free to play whatever you want, but when something is not Blizzlike and it is Gamebreaking for Paladin then it is.

Holy Resistance by no mean is Blizzlike and i don't care how much you believe in my moral, i presented all evidence and they denied Blizzard words, they denied quotes from TBC .

It is not what my moral is when they are acting on assumptions "trust in private servers/modified client and code instead how it suppose to work".

Second thing and last thing is their Racism which i will never tolerate.

[smilkovpetko]

The next time i see new created accounts or hidden accounts bashing me with Racism words or insults , i will request Locking this Topic.

[Tarnum]

You didn't get it. It is not about dodging stun.
It is about that two things could happen at the exact same time. In our case it is charge/intercept and shadowstep.

Yes, rogue still get stunned by intercept but he used shadowstep and now placed on a spot behind a warrior before he charged, so they switched positions.

It can only happen with batch system AKA spell-delay.

Watch it again from 0:26:
1) Warrior fear rogue
2) rogue trinket fear
3) warrior intercept and rogue shadowstep
4) they switched positions and rogue stunned

But I guess you just see what you want.

[smilkovpetko]

You didn't get it. It is not about dodging stun.
It is about that two things could happen at the exact same time. In our case it is charge/intercept and shadowstep.

Yes, rogue still get stunned by intercept but he used shadowstep and now placed on a spot behind a warrior before he charged, so they switched positions.

It can only happen with batch system AKA spell-delay.

Watch it again from 0:26:
1) Warrior fear rogue
2) rogue trinket fear
3) warrior intercept and rogue shadowstep
4) they switched positions and rogue stunned

But I guess you just see what you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5x0MDhnZM

First of all he didn't use any trinket to remove Fear at 00:26 and was waiting Fear to go off CD.

Neither the trinket went CD from that.

Now you can see how at 1:37 he used the Trinket to go out of stun from Charge.

Meanwhile , see the difference in Wrath of the Lich King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDbFBbNgyw#t=146

how easy he dodge everything without Trinket thanks to 400 MS.

[Tarnum]

First of all he didn't use any trinket to remove Fear at 00:26 and was waiting Fear to go off CD.

Yes, my bad, no trinket on this one. He didn't wait for anything either, he used Will of the Forsaken right away.

Now you can see how at 1:37 he used the Trinket to go out of stun.

Yes, he trinket intercept stun, so what? Has nothing to do with a discussion about batch system at all.

Meanwhile , see the difference in Wrath of the Lich King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDbFBbNgyw#t=146

how easy he dodge everything without Trinket.

Yes, it is still batch system, otherwise you woudln't be able to apply both effect at the same time, you would either vanish normally and spell cast would fail or you get hit by the spell. The vanish just more broken than ever.

0:26 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5x0MDhnZM shows that batch system was there before WotLK.

Is it that hard to see this and just accept that you were wrong about something?