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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:56 pm

Cardinalsin wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:This sound like Paladin with Hybrid spec = 1.12 Tiers and pre 1.9 Non Tier Gear . 500% Blizzlike.


Hello Duki.

Thank you for visiting the Crestfall forums and thoroughly reading the constant updates provided for forum members and guests to see how professional and hardworking the devs are as we approach closed Beta.

We regret that you are unwilling to post on the CF forums as you are entitled to do to discuss your viewpoints and this issue you seem to have with everyone there.

We remind you that it is impossible to be 100% Blizzlike as this would mean releasing content from 1.1.0 and working our way by patch release to TBC. No server therefore is 100% Blizzlike including your current go to realm of Elysium.

So in effect, all servers are hewn from a common 1.12 template with content etc released as per the wishes of the developers in association to perceived demand.

Therefore, servers can be judged on the quality of their emulator. We remain 500% confident that Crestfall will be far superior than any server out there.


We regret that you are unwilling to post on the CF forums as you are entitled to do to discuss your viewpoints and this issue you seem to have with everyone there.


Not with everyone , just with Crestfall Racist Admins.

We remind you that it is impossible to be 100% Blizzlike as this would mean releasing content from 1.1.0 and working our way by patch release to TBC. No server therefore is 100% Blizzlike including your current go to realm of Elysium.


Elysium is 100% Blizzlike 1.12 Realm, sorry to hurt your feelings but it is truth.

Therefore, servers can be judged on the quality of their emulator. We remain 500% confident that Crestfall will be far superior than any server out there.


Quality or Modified WoW = 2 different things, which in fact Cresfall is not Blizzlike and it is Modified server..
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:11 pm

Reminder for wrong promises and behavior by Crestfall:

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... comment-97

Q. Okay, so when will the server be released?

A. Our Beta testing process will begin at the end of the summer. Release will depend on how Beta goes. We won't launch until we've fixed up all the major bugs and finished scripting all the content. A rough estimate is year end 2016 for the official launch.


Q. First thing's first. Pay to win?

A. No. No purchased levels, skills, gold, or items. We reserve the right to change our minds if it's a matter of keeping the servers online post-launch,


Q. What about Chinese farmers?

A. Due to the Great Firewall of China, most Chinese players must connect to private servers such as this through VPNs. We are disabling VPN access to both our PvE and PvP realms.


Q. Can I ask questions about Holy Resist?

A. No.


http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... omment-353

I'm going to answer the last four questions in one post.

Regarding pre-1.4 itemization and stat changes on items, no. Even if Nost releases all the info, we still probably won't do it. We're going to be running on 1.12.1 spells and talents, so having itemization balanced for that makes sense. If you start rolling back items to previous patch versions, then you have to start considering rolling class spells back as well. Let's take the fear off Deathcoil, and take away Bestial Wrath, and take away this or change that.. You get into this rollback creep that is an absurd amount of work, and it's just not worth it. We're going 1.12.1 stats, spells and itemizations from the start. Content won't all be there at launch, (ie. Maraudon, Dire Maul, Cenarion Hold NPCs, Zandalar Tribe NPCs, Light's Hope Chapel Naxx NPCs, etc.) but when they are added, they will be added in their 1.12.1 form. It's a compromise we're making, but it's as far as we're going to go with it.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Keftenk » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:49 pm

Wait...so what's the point of progressive content without progressive itemization? 90% of MC nullified by blues that drop in UBRS,LBRS, Scholo, Strat, etc. are better than the gear that drops in that raid...?

Am I misunderstanding something here?
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:19 am

smilkovpetko wrote:http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/737-darkrasps-update-9262016/

- Items that were added to boss drop tables in patches 1.9 and 1.10, ie. Spellweaver's Turban, have been removed from the drop tables.


- Items that had their stats buffed after the release of Blackwing Lair have (mostly) had their stats reverted to the old pre-buff values. This affects most of the epic PvP armor and a large number of dungeon drops.


This does not affect raid tier set items.


R14 weapons will not be nerfed, but due to the fact that the honor system won't be enabled at launch, and the time it takes to hit R14, won't be possible for more than a couple people to obtain prior to the BWL release anyways.


- Items that were added to vendor tables after the release of Blackwing Lair will be removed from those vendors at launch,


- Darkmoon Faire and Argent Dawn reputation items (ie. Savage Frond, Glowing Scorpid Blood, etc.) have been removed from drop tables


This sound like Paladin with Hybrid spec = 1.12 Tiers and pre 1.9 Non Tier Gear . 500% Blizzlike.


Again. Isnt this pretty great for us pallies though? I really dont see the problem. If it was like Nostalrius then non-holy would be even more gimped because of changes to tier sets. Now we just might have -healing and damage done" stuff on our tier, like the later version. We will see how it all goes. As long as they fix all the usual private server bugs with ret spec im happy. As you know there are plenty of issues there on every server. And im NOT talking about holy resist now so just dont bother mention it.

Anyway. I see that you are actually following and reading through their weekly updates. I also noticed you arent very happy with the state of stock mangos Elysium (Best of luck to them though, im not bashing here). I think its safe to say you will be joining Crestfall in the end anyway. You are just abit hangover butthurt from their rejection. But you'll come around eventually... or you will sit in some empty server brooding, who knows with your state of mind right?

I also noticed that Darkgrasp isnt the only dev you have an issue with, but Psojed from Kronos as well, which is just hilarious considering he is a vetaran paladin player as well that knows his sh*t on that class more than anyone. But of course, the whole issue you got is they rejected your bogus claims, so I get it, it just makes you look so much dumber tho.

Anyway. Why dont the mods around here ban you for ruining thread after thread I wonder? Where's the line on this? Opinions are fine, but this is more akin to spam and obsession.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:23 am

Keftenk wrote:Wait...so what's the point of progressive content without progressive itemization? 90% of MC nullified by blues that drop in UBRS,LBRS, Scholo, Strat, etc. are better than the gear that drops in that raid...?

Am I misunderstanding something here?


Read the Crestfall update itself, never Smil/Duki snips as its only made to badmouth the server.

The last update states:
- Items that had their stats buffed after the release of Blackwing Lair have (mostly) had their stats reverted to the old pre-buff values. This affects most of the epic PvP armor and a large number of dungeon drops.


So dont worry.. There is no way they would let LBRS drops be better than 90% of MC gear.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by smilkovpetko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:45 am

Again. Isnt this pretty great for us pallies though? I really dont see the problem.


- Items that were added to boss drop tables in patches 1.9 and 1.10, ie. Spellweaver's Turban, have been removed from the drop tables.

- Items that had their stats buffed after the release of Blackwing Lair have (mostly) had their stats reverted to the old pre-buff values.

- Items that were added to vendor tables after the release of Blackwing Lair will be removed from those vendors at launch,

If it was like Nostalrius then non-holy would be even more gimped


I am sure Retri Paladins love removal of Spell Damage Items and prot Paladins removal of their most viable Stats. + The Holy Resistance.

Clearly you know everything about Paladins :D :D no wonder why Crestfall will suck 100% for Paladins.

I also noticed you arent very happy with the state of stock mangos Elysium


Sorry to hurt your feelings but Elysium is not only stock mangos but it is using another most sophisticated core that replicate and fix all the issues which Mangos can't do.

Psojed from Kronos as well, which is just hilarious considering he is a vetaran paladin player as well that knows his sh*t on that class more than anyone.


Would love Theloras / Theoloras respond for this :D

@Keftenk i am quoting everything their Admins says so don't worry , you are not misunderstood.

They use "Wall of Text" on their Updates, so people are easy getting tricked with their "cheap tricks" to avoid their terrible Modification and non Blizzlike features.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Magnifican » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:55 am

Tier items wont be touched though. So Judgement set will be pretty badass. And there will be other items, just gotta work hard to obtain to make it work, as per usual.
And on Nostalrius all those particular items, plus everything else like tier sets was nerfed to pre 1.3-1.4 even. I remember you complaining then too when tiers only had "Healing done", and not "damage and healing done" on them. But how is this any worse? Its abit hybrid as you said. Just give it a rest.

And what about Theloras? Would he say that Psojed is not a vetaran paladin player or what? That was mere fact. Theloras might be extremely knowledgeable as well though :P I havent seen him going on a crusade for holy resist so, thats a good sign. ;)

Naah, time for bed. Cya on Crestfall Duki
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Theoloras » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:42 am

"I also noticed that Darkgrasp isnt the only dev you have an issue with, but Psojed from Kronos as well, which is just hilarious considering he is a vetaran paladin player as well that knows his sh*t on that class more than anyone."

Please tell me that you did not seriously mean that when you typed it...

Psojed - the Lead Paladin Tester on Kronos - is one of the stupidest people I have ever had the misfortune of dealing with on any private server.

He believes that Seal Twisting wasn't possible during Vanilla, that Holy Resistance is fine, that Judgement stacking isn't correct and that Seal of Command should be on the spell hit/crit table and as such be able to be resisted.

When I called him out on all of this bull$hit, he had me permanently banned from the Kronos forums. Several other players called him out on the forums about his behaviour towards me and that my perm ban was nowhere near warranted, yet I'm still banned.

Veteran Paladin player...I think not.

As far as Crestfall goes, I'm staying out of the debate because frankly I'm tired of stupid ignorant people - suffice to say that Holy Resistance existing there is beyond dumb.

Plus the fact that Imbaslap being Darkrasp's right hand man there makes me not want to touch that server with a 10 foot pole.

All things being equal, Elysium is the most "blizzlike" server BY FAR that I've seen or played on as far as Paladin spells and abilities. Like all private servers, it has some bugs here and there, but the professionalism of the devs there and their openness to player input via discord chat and the forums is pretty good.

I levelled a Paladin there to level 34 I think it was but then got a bit tired of the whole 1x levelling process. I am currently raiding on vanilla gaming with my boy Smiter. Sure VG is bugged as hell, but it's a fun romp to play there and I'm having fun:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=49176

Where you or anyone else wants to play is your business not mine, but don't try to say that Duki doesn't know what he's talking about and don't ever try to say that Psojed is an example for other Paladins to emulate.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by gangstabitch » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:18 am

Keftenk wrote:Wait...so what's the point of progressive content without progressive itemization? 90% of MC nullified by blues that drop in UBRS,LBRS, Scholo, Strat, etc. are better than the gear that drops in that raid...?

Am I misunderstanding something here?


bro it's DAVAI DAVAI logic, you don't try to reason it.

world's 1st 100% scripted blizzlike (killduki confirmed himself) progressive content server with non progressive items so you can do super cool things like clearing Garr with 1 warlock or obtain all BIS gear that wasn't available when people raided ony/MC to make raids super easy! DAVAI comrade! :D

edit: oshit, I'm flaming the wrong server.
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Re: Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

by Tarnum » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:12 am

As always, just go and check Crestfall Developer's Corner. Read it yourself to understand what this server is about:
http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... rs-corner/

Plus there is a FAQ for you:
http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/inde ... questions/

Never listen to anyone and make your own opinion.

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I wonder if anyone still listens to you and takes you seriously. Even if you right on something, people just going to ignore you by default. You digging your own grave.
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