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Re: Pro tip for debates

by Antility » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:33 am

Mencius wrote:People being judged by others based on their place of origin/religion/culture/skin color etc. has been a fact of history since history has been recorded. You ever read the way the Romans talked about the Gauls? So "racism" is a buzzword in the same way that "war" or "food" are buzzwords.

But maybe some of the more sensitive people just don't like the term "racist" or "racism?" Would a codeword be better? Maybe we can say "snufflebear" instead of "racist?"

You, sir, are a big, flaming snufflebear.

Better?



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Re: Pro tip for debates

by Wrathran » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:55 am

Antility wrote:no idea what you are talking about

BINGO!
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by mozibake » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:03 am

who is this fricking dork who joined a month ago and already made 6 million posts about how refugees didndonuffin or whatever

go back to self-fellating your stupid flow chart in the support section friendo

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Re: Pro tip for debates

by Dr. Doom » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:06 pm

Mencius wrote:People being judged by others based on their place of origin/religion/culture/skin color etc. has been a fact of history since history has been recorded. You ever read the way the Romans talked about the Gauls? So "racism" is a buzzword in the same way that "war" or "food" are buzzwords.


Although I'm aware few people know much about anything, you should know that racism only has any recorded use in Indo-European languages from the XX Century onwards. Prototype of the meme-based language people spout.
The Oxford English Dictionary's first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902.


Crying and frowning your teenie little mouth achieved nothing other than laughter and contempt for the near totality of human history. So don't. People respect people with dignity. People with dignity have self-respect and don't go around begging for special treatment and competing for victimhood status.
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by smilkovpetko » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:09 am

Racism is when you divide groups between Class , Ethnic , Religion , Skin Color , National etc.

For example
1.You are from lower Class , you are poor and you have no rights to step in my door because of that.

2.You have different nation identity from my own nation identity so you have no rights to interfere in my Country or Business or whatever,everything that happen today here is your fault so i will point finger and blaming you , only because you are here or you are born here you have no rights at all and everything that happens bad is your fault no matter if problem is from something else or not.

3.You are from another Religion and everything that happen today is because people from your Religion creates Terror , therefore because you are from that Religion i consider you as Terrorist or "unbeliever" or "believes in devil" no matter if you are good or bad or Human Being.

4.I am White and you are Black or Yellow , therefore you are not welcome here because i treat you like you don't belong here no matter if you are born in Earth same as i do.

5.I consider "nation name" as my own , you have no rights to call yourself like that neither you are available to call yourself like that , you are "fake" created and you have no rights at all.

That was the 5 Examples with Racism in practice but there are many many others too.

Racism is known among scientists as "Modern Slavery" and is act of Terror and is extremely Discriminating and Dangerous that violate all the Human Rights.

Today in World of Warcraft Vanilla we can see some similar actions that are everywhere present such as example : You are Retribution Paladin and you have no rights to join in my Raid (PVE) no matter if you are PVE spec or not, whether you preform better than others or not, whether you contribute better than others or not , your Spec is not welcome because of that,this,there,here. Go reroll Holy or Mage or Warrior if you want to join my Raid.

Song that will inspire everyone against Racism , feel free to watch the Video as whole : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibXTko6VC4
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by Cowiee » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:20 pm

Isnt racism just comparative genetics.

I think there should be something called justified racist feelings, for instance. If you have a minority of people, that consistently go to airports or metrostations, sacrificing hundreds of people for an Allah, then naturally people will direct aggressive thoughts or feelings towards that particular group of people.
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by snawfu » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:49 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Racism is when you divide groups between Class , Ethnic , Religion , Skin Color , National etc.



Today in World of Warcraft Vanilla we can see some similar actions that are everywhere present such as example : You are Retribution Paladin and you have no rights to join in my Raid (PVE) no matter if you are PVE spec or not, whether you preform better than others or not, whether you contribute better than others or not , your Spec is not welcome because of that,this,there,here. Go reroll Holy or Mage or Warrior if you want to join my Raid.

Song that will inspire everyone against Racism , feel free to watch the Video as whole : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibXTko6VC4


Lmao you didn't just compare racism to playing a retripaladin hahaha what a legend
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by smilkovpetko » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:08 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Racism is when you divide groups between Class , Ethnic , Religion , Skin Color , National etc.

For example
1.You are from lower Class , you are poor and you have no rights to step in my door because of that.

2.You have different nation identity from my own nation identity so you have no rights to interfere in my Country or Business or whatever,everything that happen today here is your fault so i will point finger and blaming you , only because you are here or you are born here you have no rights at all and everything that happens bad is your fault no matter if problem is from something else or not.

3.You are from another Religion and everything that happen today is because people from your Religion creates Terror , therefore because you are from that Religion i consider you as Terrorist or "unbeliever" or "believes in devil" no matter if you are good or bad or Human Being.

4.I am White and you are Black or Yellow , therefore you are not welcome here because i treat you like you don't belong here no matter if you are born in Earth same as i do.

5.I consider "nation name" as my own , you have no rights to call yourself like that neither you are available to call yourself like that , you are "fake" created and you have no rights at all.

That was the 5 Examples with Racism in practice but there are many many others too.

Racism is known among scientists as "Modern Slavery" and is act of Terror and is extremely Discriminating and Dangerous that violate all the Human Rights.

Today in World of Warcraft Vanilla we can see some similar actions that are everywhere present such as example : You are Retribution Paladin and you have no rights to join in my Raid (PVE) no matter if you are PVE spec or not, whether you preform better than others or not, whether you contribute better than others or not , your Spec is not welcome because of that,this,there,here. Go reroll Holy or Mage or Warrior if you want to join my Raid.

Song that will inspire everyone against Racism , feel free to watch the Video as whole : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibXTko6VC4


snawfu wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:Racism is when you divide groups between Class , Ethnic , Religion , Skin Color , National etc.



Today in World of Warcraft Vanilla we can see some similar actions that are everywhere present such as example : You are Retribution Paladin and you have no rights to join in my Raid (PVE) no matter if you are PVE spec or not, whether you preform better than others or not, whether you contribute better than others or not , your Spec is not welcome because of that,this,there,here. Go reroll Holy or Mage or Warrior if you want to join my Raid.

Song that will inspire everyone against Racism , feel free to watch the Video as whole : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibXTko6VC4


Lmao you didn't just compare racism to playing a retripaladin hahaha what a legend


I just said how it is and how it work with pure examples .
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by Blib » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:22 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Endless stream of blabber

What you're describing is discrimination in general, racism is just related to race.
The reason why people who use the words 'racism' is being viewed as crybabies these days is because SJW use it so liberally that it has lost a lot of it's impact and meaning.

And lol at your retri paladin analogy. Discrimination is unfairly treating a particular group of people differently.
If you show up to a football match wearing high heels and a dress, don't expect the coach to put you on the field, even if you technically are a way better player than a lot of those who got picked ahead of you, you're still putting yourself at a massive disadvantage and the fact that you deliberately put yourself at a disadvantage like that tells a lot about your character. I wouldn't want people like that on my team.
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Re: Pro tip for debates

by smilkovpetko » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:05 pm

Blib wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:Endless stream of blabber

What you're describing is discrimination in general, racism is just related to race.
The reason why people who use the words 'racism' is being viewed as crybabies these days is because SJW use it so liberally that it has lost a lot of it's impact and meaning.

And lol at your retri paladin analogy. Discrimination is unfairly treating a particular group of people differently.
If you show up to a football match wearing high heels and a dress, don't expect the coach to put you on the field, even if you technically are a way better player than a lot of those who got picked ahead of you, you're still putting yourself at a massive disadvantage and the fact that you deliberately put yourself at a disadvantage like that tells a lot about your character. I wouldn't want people like that on my team.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Racism is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination


Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to a United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms "racial" and "ethnic" discrimination.


Aversive racism is a form of implicit racism in which a person's unconscious negative evaluations of racial or ethnic minorities are realized by a persistent avoidance of interaction with other racial and ethnic groups.


Cultural racism is a term used to describe and explain new racial ideologies and practices that have emerged since World War II.


Institutional racism (also known as structural racism, state racism or systemic racism) is racial discrimination by governments, corporations, religions, or educational institutions or other large organizations with the power to influence the lives of many individuals.


racism constituted the destruction of culture, language, religion, and human possibility and that the effects of racism were "the morally monstrous destruction of human possibility involved redefining African humanity to the world, poisoning past, present and future relations with others who only know us through this stereotyping and thus damaging the truly human relations among peoples


Othering plays a fundamental role in the history and continuation of racism. To objectify a culture as something different, exotic or underdeveloped is to generalize that it is not like 'normal' society. Europe's colonial attitude towards the Orient exemplifies this as it was thought that the East was the opposite of the West; feminine where the West was masculine, weak where the West was strong and traditional where the West was progressive.[58] By making these generalizations and othering the East, Europe was simultaneously defining herself as the norm, further entrenching the gap


While 19th century racism became closely intertwined with nationalism,[111] leading to the ethnic nationalist discourse that identified the "race" to the "folk", leading to such movements as pan-Germanism, Zionism,[112] pan-Turkism, pan-Arabism, and pan-Slavism,


Others conflate recent forms of racism with earlier forms of ethnic and national conflict. In most cases, ethno-national conflict seems to owe itself to conflict over land and strategic resources. In some cases, ethnicity and nationalism were harnessed to rally combatants in wars between great religious empires (for example, the Muslim Turks and the Catholic Austro-Hungarians).


Research on influencing factors
Different groups are viewed differently and including illegal groups in tolerance surveys may reduce tolerance levels in all countries except the United States. Increased contact with other groups increase tolerance. Increased perception of threat, including from the home land of an ethnic minority, reduces tolerance. Competition over jobs reduces tolerance and occupational segregation reduced ethnic conflicts and ethnic prejudice in studies in the United States and Yugoslavia. Tolerance is increased by democratic stability and a federal system. Increased ethnic heterogeneity increases tolerance up to a point but beyond this tolerance decreases.


Contemporary slavery, also known as modern slavery
Modern slavery is often seen as a by-product of poverty. Countries that lack education, economic freedoms and the rule of law, and which have poor societal structure can create an environment that fosters the acceptance and propagation of slavery.


Slavery is something that's with us always.


http://www.timwise.org/2015/04/how-raci ... affluence/

Although there are likely several answers to these questions, there can be no doubt that among the biggest is the role of racism in dividing working class folks along lines of racial and ethnic identity.
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