World Chat and Freedom of Speech

[jimmbo]

SWISH IM BALLIN, IM SO AWWSOME
Player moderated channel
http://tinypic.com/r/16j37tc/8

nice binds

not my screenshot

how did u even get my screenshot lol
there are bindings it doesn't show them?

[skyracer500]

They're not going to.. Even though world was monitored by mods on retail, they still won't do it here. Btw, ridin dirty is grizzly on alliance.

[ganjitsu]

I built my own house, and i have a lot of friends that come here all the time to socialize. Now a lot of others, whom i don't know also want to come inside my house. And that's fine, but the second they start calling people Niggers, Faggots, Retards, they are out. Easy. My house, my rules. Here is the problem: These dumbasses now think my house belongs to everyone, just because everyone wants to use it. They don't realize it's my private property, and i do whatever the fuck i want with it. No matter how much you "need" or "want" to be in my house, it's not your RIGHT, and i decide if you get to come or not. Get it?

Now seriously, stop posting your cancerous shit all over the forums. You are like a virus.

Fuck you, you subconscious-dominated piece of monkey shit. Your example is fucking retarded.
World chat is a public service. There is precedent for this on every other private server. People use it as a public service. People have known it as a public service. People rightfully expect it as a public service. The problem is that some degenerates like you think they have the right to take control of it. It's not in the public's interest to allow this to happen for reasons that are completely obvious through the circumstances on this server.

[ganjitsu]

World chat is a private PLAYER CREATED channel and the admins have already made their stance clear.

Find a way to solve these problems without the admin's help.

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[Multisoda]

srsly wrong password world channel?????

[ganjitsu]

Yes, something needs to be done about it. Everyone uses it instead of LFG, that's for sure.
Server staff is just being completely *EDIT* language...
Every other private server administrates world chat for very good reasons.

Everyone who says "LALALA ITS A PRIVATE CHANNEL DEAL WITH IT" is completely *EDIT* language...

THE EXACT PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S PRIVATE CHANNEL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT FACT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

and then they go "NANANANA JUST USE LFG AND TRADE CHANNEL"

even though some one has already explained how everyone uses world instead of LFG so the clear implication is that using LFG is sub-optimal at best since the vast majority of everyone isn't even on it. As though this needed to be explained at all to begin with.

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[Whiplashy]

I built my own house, and i have a lot of friends that come here all the time to socialize. Now a lot of others, whom i don't know also want to come inside my house. And that's fine, but the second they start calling people Niggers, Faggots, Retards, they are out. Easy. My house, my rules. Here is the problem: These dumbasses now think my house belongs to everyone, just because everyone wants to use it. They don't realize it's my private property, and i do whatever the fuck i want with it. No matter how much you "need" or "want" to be in my house, it's not your RIGHT, and i decide if you get to come or not. Get it?

Now seriously, stop posting your cancerous shit all over the forums. You are like a virus.

Fuck you, you subconscious-dominated piece of monkey shit. Your example is fucking retarded.
World chat is a public service. There is precedent for this on every other private server. People use it as a public service. People have known it as a public service. People rightfully expect it as a public service. The problem is that some degenerates like you think they have the right to take control of it. It's not in the public's interest to allow this to happen for reasons that are completely obvious through the circumstances on this server.

You keep embarrassing yourself kid. But i guess at this point there is no turning back for you. Might aswell go the stretch. My example is perfectly fine, because even though you might have the "rights" to use world freely on other servers, that does not apply here. This is a blizzlike server. Vanilla never had staff-moderated global chats. You can stop spreading your "freedom of speech, liberty, 2nd amendment, murican constitution" shit here now because it does NOT apply here. What is it thats so hard to understand? Are you really this dense?

Also "The problem is that some degenerates like you think they have the right to take control of it". I would like to point out that i was never in any sort of power position in neither world nor global, and i don't support grizzlys shit either. But there are no rules against it, and most of us make it by fine as long as we don't scream Nigger, Faggot and Retard every chance we get.

[ganjitsu]

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Blizzard strictly moderated every means of communication from whispers to guild chat. There was absolutely no freedom of speech in their game.
People did not come here to re-experience blizzard's nazi kindergarten, they come to play the fucking game.

I'm well aware that this is a community of degenerates who are incapable of expressing their views in socially conscious ways. Though I would at least expect SOMEONE to be able to engage in a proper conversation. It's an interesting lesson for me, but not a surprising one. I guess the private vanilla servers really attract only weak-willed nostalgia addicts rather than people with good taste.

There is a difference between calling some one a nigger in one case and stating your point of view on a separate matter in another case. You count it as though I'm calling people niggers and faggots and kikes throughout the entirety of my communications.

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[Smorgeybork]

Since world chat is controlled by a random person there is abuse of power. No one who plays on the server should be excluded from the community because of an immature channel owner.

World chat is used by almost every player on the server to buy and sell items, find groups, and chat. It's private server tradition for everyone to use a global channel called 'world'.
The current system of having it controlled by some random person is makes absolutely no sense.
World chat owner is a position of power on the server. Giving it to a random person for absolutely no reason is stupid. It ensures the power will be abused.
Saying world chat is a "private channel" and doing nothing to protect it doesn't change the fact that everyone uses it. Since everyone uses it there is a responsibility to maintain it with fairness. The server staff are denying this responsibility for no reason.

Words are flexible, because they represent the most mutable of all things, ideas. They change meaning in various contexts, and they absorb context into their meaning in the minds of those who use them and interpret them.
They can mean whatever the speaker or the listener want them to mean. The understanding is for the speaker and the listener to hammer out. This is vital to the process of communication.
There is often difficulty in this process when it is between only two people. In such difficult situations, any third party that advocates for one side or the other is likely to disrupt the process of coming to an understanding. To be constructive, a third party should instead mediate between the two points of view.
Any institution that tries to intervene in this process of communication by asserting that one point of view is correct is certainly malicious because it attempts to take the process out of the control of both the speaker and listener.
It attempts to remove the speaker's right to assert the meaning he intends, and it attempts to remove the listener's right to decide what the motives of the speaker are.
This is a grievous destruction of freedom.

People have been going on about "hate speech" and other reasons why people should be banned from public channels and from the server for saying things in whispers and group chats.

"Hate speech" is a DANGEROUS idea that everyone with a brain should be fighting with tooth and nail.
It is used by authorities to whitewash people's thoughts and words. It is an insidious enemy to freedom.
There is nothing wrong with having a general opinion about a group of people based on race, religion, or anything else.
Race and religion are complex traits of person, and there are myriad other traits that are associated with these other than "the color of a person's skin" or "what day they go to church".
It's absolutely fair to have an opinion on any of these traits and it's absolutely necessary that people to not face systematic discrimination for having or expressing a negative opinion on anything at all.

THERE MUST NEVER BE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REGARDLESS OF THE FEELINGS OF SOME PEOPLE

Any authority that tries to limit a person's speech has revealed itself to be evil. It destroys the freedom of the speaker and steals freedom from those hearing the speaker. The power to judge a speaker should ALWAYS lie with the listeners. Systematic judgement of self-expression steals power from the people and is an insidious threat to the freedom of all. Doing so takes the power of the speaker away to explain his meaning and takes the power of the listener away to decide the meaning of the speaker. It is a grievous injury to the freedom to all.
It is a statement that the people are too stupid or otherwise incapable of forming their own ideas and that they must be told what to do. It is a statement that what the people think does not matter and that for society to continue they must be told what to think.
This is a certain implication that society is acting against the people's interests.

Society in general believes that if they convince a majority of the population that "hate speech" is evil that they can justify silencing people who express themselves in this way, or DO WORSE TO THEM.

Everyone should realize that the freedom to express one's self is a prerequisite for the freedom to live one's life.

It important that people express their thoughts. This is a vital mechanism for obtaining new points of view of their ideas. People who express their thoughts get feedback that helps them determine the extent of the validity of their thoughts.
People should not be afraid to express any thought, because there is no thought that does not deserve to be examined. If a person thinks something honestly and can attribute reason to the thought in some detail, it is vital to show the person respect by responding to their thoughts in a reasoned manner. This is the only way to come to an understanding.
If you don't want to come to an understanding with a person, then why would you talk to them at all? To do so disrespects yourself as much as them, assuming you value your time somewhat.
Therefore to argue against a person while asserting no reason is insanity, for it is insane to disrespect one's self.
Arguing without reason is mindless self-indulgence. It is the spread irrationality. It is the spread of death. It should be dealt with in a harsh, reasoned manner.

In a couple of years, when you remember all the dumb shit you posted online as a kid, this thread will be the first to pop into your mind.

[Whiplashy]

You ABSOLUTE ANUS-TONGUING PRODUCT OF INCEST AND GENETIC MUTATION

I guess the private vanilla servers really attract only weak-willed nostalgia addicts rather than people with good taste.

There is a difference between calling some one a nigger in one case and stating your point of view on a separate matter in another case. You count it as though I'm calling people niggers and faggots and kikes throughout the entirety of my communications.

you fucking jewish nigger-faggot

/yawn, 2/10