Crestfall - 1x progressive Vanilla server

[VeloxBanks]

It only skews the economy if nothing is done about the economy. It's not hard to compensate properly for a higher population. Capping a server so low is just asking for players to go elsewhere. Doesn't really make much sense to make 3 realms when you could just have everyone on one.

It's not like the realms are going to be completely region locked, like retail*.

I don't think the devs want to be spending their time on continually fixing the economy because the population is draining resources. Like I said in the above post, rather than discussing Crestfall third party, why don't you go on the CF forum and take it up with the developers instead? Not least of which, you'll get better and more cogent answers that dealing with people like me.

>tfw you think ~3500 population locked server wouldn't need economic tuning via Dev's after 1 year, 2 year, 3 years, etc.

No need to go over there truthfully if ~3500 is the cap. The server could be the most pure vanilla experience private server and I still wouldn't migrate simply because I, like the other ~150,000 players wouldn't be able to play on a locked realm. Assuming Crestfall will be of quality which warrants support.

I mean. Just look at what happened with Kronos when Nost went down.

Well it sucks that we won't see ya there. You're more than welcome to join later on. Just don't think that a pop limit bellow 10k is necesseserily a bad thing, atleast when telling other people about the server.

[Keftenk]

I'm not saying it needs to be Nost levels, but ~3500 is laughable. This is all hypothetical of course, but assuming Crestfall takes off just like Nost did you're saying you want to funnel ~3500 people at any given time from around the world (exception China) into one spot?

Oh, but they'll just add more realms? How would that be cost effective at all? Are they planning on using ridiculously out dated technology that is dirt cheap to them?

[VeloxBanks]

I'm not saying it needs to be Nost levels, but ~3500 is laughable. This is all hypothetical of course, but assuming Crestfall takes off just like Nost did you're saying you want to funnel ~3500 people at any given time from around the world (exception China) into one spot?

Oh, but they'll just add more realms? How would that be cost effective at all? Are they planning on using ridiculously out dated technology that is dirt cheap to them?

Eh, I wouldn't say it's laughable. Let's just see where it goes. I don't really see any reason to talk of it so negatively for now. Your concern will be valid once it's player count goes over 3500. For now the server hasn't even launched yet.

[Aquane]

I'm not saying it needs to be Nost levels, but ~3500 is laughable. This is all hypothetical of course, but assuming Crestfall takes off just like Nost did you're saying you want to funnel ~3500 people at any given time from around the world (exception China) into one spot?

Oh, but they'll just add more realms? How would that be cost effective at all? Are they planning on using ridiculously out dated technology that is dirt cheap to them?

I think that it'd actually be a better experience for there to be 3 realms capped at 3500 players(that actually have ~3000 on each) than to have one realm with 9000 players on it thats capped at 10k; thats just too many players, and I'm not sure if I even wanna imagine playing on a wow server with that many people as it might actually drive me away because of how overcrowded it is

sure sure all the hardcore players might go to the first pvp server on day one, but maybe I and some others would like it that way, as it'd keep most of the MUSTWINMUSTWINMUSTWIN tryhards on one server and make it a better experience on the other servers for the less hardcore players; there'd still be tryhards on the other servers, but just not as many

[Rikkisix]

I honestly have to agree with Keft Even as a PVE'r 3k just doesn't seem large, I know it's all blizzlike but i loved going to questing zones and not seeing them dead, making it feel like a world. 5-7k should be cap, if they want a cap. but i can understand how people are against it. They should make two servers one with cap and one without.

Edit: also i liked seeing pugs everyday even tho i was saved, and being able to cherry pick my pre bis raid farm groups

[Cardinalsin]

>tfw you think ~3500 population locked server wouldn't need economic tuning via Dev's after 1 year, 2 year, 3 years, etc.

No need to go over there truthfully if ~3500 is the cap. The server could be the most pure vanilla experience private server and I still wouldn't migrate simply because I, like the other ~150,000 players wouldn't be able to play on a locked realm. Assuming Crestfall will be of quality which warrants support.

I mean. Just look at what happened with Kronos when Nost went down.

A lot of people, and I'm not indicating this applies to you, forget that Kronus actually predates Nost. The circumstances in Kronus are unusual. First, because it became the realm of choice for all the Nost refugees (I know, I was one of them), and the second, the shitstorm caused by Nost shutting down enabled thousands of players - who were never aware of private vanilla servers - to start looking for alternatives.

It's no surprise that Kronos was and is under extreme pressure to cope with the influx + the DDoS attacks. Hats off to them, they have done a good job. Which is more than you can say for the numerous launches we've had since Nost shut down or the various reincarnations of older, private servers.

Most, if not all of these, have been a complete disaster and have succeeded in nothing other than giving private servers a very bad name. Because Crestfall is to all intents and purposes a completely new emulator, they can't launch the server until all the work is complete, probably towards the end of the year.

All the developers have been involved in previous private servers and other vanilla projects. They understand the game mechanics better than you and I can. So if they take the line that ~3500 is max population and give good reasons for it, I'll take their word for it.

Can I suggest you read this thread here: http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/22-some-questions-about-the-server/&page=3 as it gives a pretty good Q&A on the topics that interest you.

Again, I'm not saying that you are necessarily wrong. Nost was great fun and I was very sorry and angry to see it go. Since then I've been to a lot of servers and I can now see what the guys in CF are so determined to bring out their own vanilla flavour. It's not better or worse than Nost or Kronos, just different.

[smilkovpetko]

What concerns me the most in this server is :
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They gave me Warning for opposing someone that is using Racism words.

No thanks i am not gonna play in server that support or ignore Racism until they apologize for the Warning and Warn the ones that are using Racism..

This Server "Crestfall" reminds me on "good old Feenix" where the same story was present and the time when i created and uploaded Video for their action.

Nostalrius was very good for 1 thing : Not tolerating Racism offense at any form and they have full respect for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSz3lT4mqs

Song for that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoD_s-DKGZI

[VeloxBanks]

What concerns me the most in this server is :
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https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 1450_o.jpg

They gave me Warning for opposing someone that is using Racism words.

No thanks i am not gonna play in server that support or ignore Racism until they apologize for the Warning and Warn the ones that are using Racism..

This Server "Crestfall" reminds me on "good old Feenix" where the same story was present and the time when i created and uploaded Video for their action.

Nostalrius was very good for 1 thing : Not tolerating Racism offense at any form and they have full respect for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSz3lT4mqs

Song for that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoD_s-DKGZI

I honestly thought you were trolling up untill you took your "joke" to another forum.

Slav/Slavland is far from racist. You're the first person to come up with the idea that it is. I actually can't comprehend how you could turn something like this into a problem.

By all means feel free to stick with us. But I sure as hell would like it if you either left or didn't try to be a comedian again.

Oh, and yes, I AM a slav. A jolly slav from Bulgaria (AKA Slavland4).

[smilkovpetko]

What concerns me the most in this server is :
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 0233_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 1450_o.jpg

They gave me Warning for opposing someone that is using Racism words.

No thanks i am not gonna play in server that support or ignore Racism until they apologize for the Warning and Warn the ones that are using Racism..

This Server "Crestfall" reminds me on "good old Feenix" where the same story was present and the time when i created and uploaded Video for their action.

Nostalrius was very good for 1 thing : Not tolerating Racism offense at any form and they have full respect for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSz3lT4mqs

Song for that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoD_s-DKGZI

I honestly thought you were trolling up untill you took your "joke" to another forum.

Slav/Slavland is far from racist. You're the first person to come up with the idea that it is. I actually can't comprehend how you could turn something like this into a problem.

By all means feel free to stick with us. But I sure as hell would like it if you either left or didn't try to be a comedian again.

Oh, and yes, I AM a slav. A jolly slav from Bulgaria (AKA Slavland4).

I don't care what do you think you are : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment

Anti-Slavism, also known as Slavophobia, a form of racism or xenophobia, refers to various negative attitudes towards Slavic peoples, the most common manifestation being claims of inferiority of Slavic nations with respect to other ethnic groups. Its opposite is Slavophilia. Anti-Slavism reached its highest peak during World War II, when Nazi Germany declared Slavs to be subhuman and planned to exterminate the majority of Slavic people.[1]

At the beginning of the 20th century, anti-Slavism developed in Albania by the work of the Franciscan monks who had studied in monasteries in Austria-Hungary.[2] They imitated and transposed the national epics of the literature produced there, as Gjergj Fishta did with his Lahuta e Malcís, but they substituted the struggle against Ottoman Empire with the struggle against the Slavs, propagating anti-Slavic feelings.

Anti-Slavism was notable in Italian Fascism and Nazism prior to and during World War II.

Anti-Slavic racism was an essential component of Nazism.[10] Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party movement regarded Slavic countries (especially Poland, Serbia and Russia) and their peoples as Untermenschen (subhumans),

Today this is highly intensive issue where Greeks using the same word Slavs and denying whole Macedonian nation calling them Slavs or connecting them with any form of Slav word. .

It is highly offensive and racist word no matter what you believe and server is ignoring/tolerating this.... .

I am sorry but this server Crestfall is a pity joke and nothing more than that, not to mention the lies they spill against Nostalrius .

[VeloxBanks]

What concerns me the most in this server is :
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 0233_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 1450_o.jpg

They gave me Warning for opposing someone that is using Racism words.

No thanks i am not gonna play in server that support or ignore Racism until they apologize for the Warning and Warn the ones that are using Racism..

This Server "Crestfall" reminds me on "good old Feenix" where the same story was present and the time when i created and uploaded Video for their action.

Nostalrius was very good for 1 thing : Not tolerating Racism offense at any form and they have full respect for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSz3lT4mqs

Song for that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoD_s-DKGZI

I honestly thought you were trolling up untill you took your "joke" to another forum.

Slav/Slavland is far from racist. You're the first person to come up with the idea that it is. I actually can't comprehend how you could turn something like this into a problem.

By all means feel free to stick with us. But I sure as hell would like it if you either left or didn't try to be a comedian again.

Oh, and yes, I AM a slav. A jolly slav from Bulgaria (AKA Slavland4).

I don't care what do you think you are : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment

Anti-Slavism, also known as Slavophobia, a form of racism or xenophobia, refers to various negative attitudes towards Slavic peoples, the most common manifestation being claims of inferiority of Slavic nations with respect to other ethnic groups. Its opposite is Slavophilia. Anti-Slavism reached its highest peak during World War II, when Nazi Germany declared Slavs to be subhuman and planned to exterminate the majority of Slavic people.[1]

At the beginning of the 20th century, anti-Slavism developed in Albania by the work of the Franciscan monks who had studied in monasteries in Austria-Hungary.[2] They imitated and transposed the national epics of the literature produced there, as Gjergj Fishta did with his Lahuta e Malcís, but they substituted the struggle against Ottoman Empire with the struggle against the Slavs, propagating anti-Slavic feelings.

Anti-Slavism was notable in Italian Fascism and Nazism prior to and during World War II.

Anti-Slavic racism was an essential component of Nazism.[10] Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party movement regarded Slavic countries (especially Poland, Serbia and Russia) and their peoples as Untermenschen (subhumans),

Today this is highly intensive issue where Greeks using the same word Slavs and denying whole Macedonian nation calling them Slavs or connecting them with any form of Slav word. .

It is highly offensive and racist word no matter what you believe and server is ignoring/tolerating this.... .

I am sorry but this server Crestfall is a pity joke and nothing more than that, not to mention the lies they spill against Nostalrius .

Then don't play there. Simple.