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What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:44 pm
by Lighthammer
I'm guessing most of you don't like all the changes that Blizzard has done to the game, or else you wouldn't play here. However, are there any changes that happened in the expansions that actually benefited the game? Or what improvements could be made to vanilla? Take off those rose tinted goggles and come with a few suggestions.

Personally I'd like the talent trees to be fixed so that all specs are viable. It would be cool if every spec could incorporate both a PvP, PvE and a hybrid of the two. I.E a frost mage can spec both into defensive talents like frost barrier, frost nova, cold snap etc for PvP, but also be able to focus on PvE with mana conserving talents. Same would go for fire and arcane. That way you can play whatever you want without being gimped, instead of being forced to play a certain spec just because the others are completely worthless (looking at you paladin protection spec). Dual spec is a bit iffy, spending time to consider your build I think adds quite a bit of immersion to the game, however annoying when you're a healer and tries to grind.

I'd also like to see more cooldowns and more interesting rotations. Most classes have pretty much one spell to cast in raids, would be nice with a few alternatives rather than just spamming shadowbolt or frostbolt for the entire game.

One thing that is almost game-breaking in PvP at the moment is the Will of the Forsaken racial. Not only acting as a pvp trinket, but also makes you immune for 5 or so seconds. The other racials pale in comparison.
Speaking about PvP, I've always liked arenas and rated battlegrounds. Now we have premades that dodge each other in order to achieve a quick win and good honor. I'd rather see the blue gear being available to people who pug bgs, but the epic being available to arena teams and rated battlegrounds.
It would also be cool with a system for organising tournaments in PvP. Imagine several teams competing to be the best on the server and win some prize money too.

These are a few suggestions, what do you think?

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:56 pm
by Lakweeta
The only thing I wish is a nerf to WotF. Nearly 90% of Horde are undead because of that racial. Races should be aesthetics, not racials. I think I've seen 2 orcs and 1 Tauren in my 2 days /played of in-game time :c

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:17 pm
by Zawa
A lower cap on respec costs. Having to spend 100g a week if you want to raid and pvp is absurd.

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:10 pm
by Jackyy
nothing. every change has the chance to destroy vanilla

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:32 pm
by heradura
Zawa wrote:A lower cap on respec costs. Having to spend 100g a week if you want to raid and pvp is absurd.

This, especially since the economy is so inflated due to the population that mats auction for fucking vendor cost.

If we want it to be Blizzlike we have to take non-Blizzlike things like population into account. It's not a negligible difference at all.

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:37 pm
by Vardia
Achievements. Thought it was a neat feature in WotLK.
Edit: oh and arenas

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:05 pm
by Xef
Lakweeta wrote:The only thing I wish is a nerf to WotF. Nearly 90% of Horde are undead because of that racial. Races should be aesthetics, not racials. I think I've seen 2 orcs and 1 Tauren in my 2 days /played of in-game time :c


This is completely OT, but I'm bored of reading this same stuff everywhere. Do people just keep repeating this "WotF OP" rubbish because everybody else keeps repeating it? Not saying WotF isn't good, but so good that '90% of horde are undead' because of it? Come on.

Most rogues are UD, yet wotf helps them fight priests and warlocks which aren't the most difficult classes for them anyway. Wouldn't orcs be better? And wouldn't dwarves be amazing against warriors and other rogues, but how many of those do you see around?

Most warlocks are UD, wouldn't orc be a better option, to help fight rogues/warriors? Wotf doesn't exactly help locks beat all those rogues does it?

When somebody makes a thread asking "which race should I choose", isn't the answer pretty much every time "UD casting animations are the best"?

Wasn't UD pretty damn popular right from the start of wow? Tell me, how many people back then, when choosing their first character, went "oh man, look at this racial, sure sounds imba..(what's fear btw?)"

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:16 am
by Crispin
Fair point, undead was very popular because well they are undead. But you cannot deny their racial and the huuuuge impact it has. I doesn't matter if you're tired of hearing it, it's simply a fact.

I think it was 20second immunity back in the day, almost unbelievably stupid.

I find it hard to justify the - should be able to pvp and pve with the same spec. Feels too much like nowadays wow, everyone can do everything. Which is kinda the core issue with wow.

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:23 am
by Setup
Arenas.
Rated BGs.
Guild banks.
25-man raids.

Everything else is fine. (Basically, I wish vanilla was TBC with rated battlegrounds.)

Re: What changes do you think would improve vanilla?

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:58 am
by Tryggwe
I would like to see some improvements to the classes, like giving paladins some form of taunt and have druids on par with priest healers.