2h Fury Pre-Raid BiS ?

[Kahmos]

Regarding Edgemasters Handguards, for a warrior doing Dps in a raid these are considered necessary, however if you're going to use this Dps spec, you won't have to invest the 400-800 gold getting a pair of these. Using the OEB is ideal for awhile due to the weaponskill on it. Going to point out that what I said could be interpreted as, "If you don't have OEB you will need Edgemasters" but that wasn't intended, I can edit the post.

Also Rend isn't good or expected to be used, "ok" is the word I used, if you're trying to be a serious raid Dps slot you wouldn't be 2h fury in the first place. You shouldn't use Rend in raids because it may take up an important debuff slot even with the debuff limit increased, but for 5 man's or unimportant targets for 10 rage it depends, you'll have higher damage yielding moves but with a full rage bar you could apply it in certain situations.

[mike1097]

Do you have a Talentspecc that you would suggest?

[St0rfan]

Do you have a Talentspecc that you would suggest?

This is the standard cookie-cutter spec for 2h fury:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LhhLbIbZVVbVMxoVo

You can swap 1 point in imp-cleave for 1/1 piercing howl for crowd control.

[mike1097]

Thanks!
What do you think about something like that?
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LhhxzNbZVVuV0xoV

[St0rfan]

Thanks!
What do you think about something like that?
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LhhxzNbZVVuV0xoV

1. Anger management is useless.
2. 0/2 imp execute gimps your DPS. Execute phase is a large chunk of warrior damange in a fight. 2/2 execute is required in a DPS-spec.
3. Missing bloodthirst. This is one of your main abilities and is also required.
4. Missing imp overpower. This is also one of your main abilities and is also required.

The spec isnt raid-viable, no.

EDIT: Basically the only viable 2h fury spec is the one I linked earlier, with the minor modification that you can switch one from imp cleave to piercing howl. Deviation from that spec will lower your DPS and raid-viability.

[westlee]

Quick recommendation, Obsidian Edged Blade is probably your best weapon for a long time until Nightfall becomes available. I suggest you save your gold for tipping a raid to reserve it for you for maybe 200g, usually nobody wants this item but for you it is likely the best due to the stats.

When Nightfall becomes available raids will want you for just the buff. Definitely get your hit% capped and stack as much crit as you can. Get the 1% haste librams for head and legs, those are necessary as well. Don't feel like you need a slow weapon, your other options are a cheap Brainhacker from the auction house, the sword from Ragnaros, and the Untamed Blade from the first boss of BWL.

NEVER USE SLAM
Learn to love the Obsidian Edged Blade.
Always use Elixir of the Mongoose and Elemental Sharpening Stone.
Spec Improved Overpower and Tactical Mastery.
Save Bloodthirsty for Crusader Procs.
Use more Whirlwinds, Overpowers and Heroic Strikes.
Rend is ok to use when the debuff limit is increased.
2h fury does not require Edgemasters Handguards if you have OEB! =D

Gonna make some points on this post,

OEB is okay but it's not even close to being as good as BRE -Bonereaver's Edge or as this guy calls it, rag sword. Slam is essential if you want to have best dps potential, but I guess if you're going 2h Fury that's already out of the question, still you can put up top numbers if you follow a proper rotation with the help of a swing-timer. Even as a dwarf having 308 2h swords wouldn't be as good as the damage increase from BRE and the proc which is even stronger on this server than it was on retail. Edgemasters don't, and to my knowledge never have worked for 2h weapons (as it states swords, axes, daggers, meaning - exactly that, not two-handed swords, two-handed axes... can be a bit confusing I know)

8str > 1% haste especially for 2h fury this early into vanilla.. brainhacker is awful... level 44 weapons are better... geez I dunno man I guess this guy just doesn't have valuable information.

[westlee]

Thanks!
What do you think about something like that?
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LhhxzNbZVVuV0xoV

1. Anger management is useless.
2. 0/2 imp execute gimps your DPS. Execute phase is a large chunk of warrior damange in a fight. 2/2 execute is required in a DPS-spec.
3. Missing bloodthirst. This is one of your main abilities and is also required.
4. Missing imp overpower. This is also one of your main abilities and is also required.

The spec isnt raid-viable, no.

EDIT: Basically the only viable 2h fury spec is the one I linked earlier, with the minor modification that you can switch one from imp cleave to piercing howl. Deviation from that spec will lower your DPS and raid-viability.

I guess you're 'anti' slam, also - but this is a better spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LbhxbhbZVVzmMEoVo

only time you should use heroic strike over slam to dump rage is when you're moving, slam doesn't reset your swing timer if it doesn't cast so take that into consideration too, worth getting and learning how to use if you want to 2h fury...

[JeeTee]

BRE's 3.4 speed, 5/5 flurry haste, and vanilla slam(1 sec cast talented) don't mix well.

I think its better to spam hamstring in between the normal rotation and increase the armor pen up-time.

[Kahmos]

This person was asking about pre-raid bis, OEB is basically an unwanted item by most raids, and is easily bought if you're willing to trust a guild to give it to you in their MC run.

I'm sure <NOPE> would sell it

Non raid you can go many different directions, a fast 2h isn't a bad choice because your only instant strike is whirlwind, so, just look at the weapon dps and stats and make your best judgement. Pre-raid isn't really known as 2h fury isn't known for good dps pre or post raid minus some exceptions.

BONEREAVERS is definitely the best weapon for raid dps you can get right now period, just don't expect to get it.

[mike1097]

By considering the fact that the 2h fury lives from the Flurry Proc, I really think (if played well) I should try a slam specc. What do you think?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LbhxbhbZVVzmMEoVo

(As mentioned above)