Level 60 Prot Build

[Ektelion]

Trying to play smart while you have 3/5 cruelty and 2/5 one hand specialization doesn't help you, who would skip 5/5 one hand specialization? you mad?

Sick response bro, of course you can take 5/5 one hand, you just drop 3 points from imp sunder, I do it a lot. It doesn't increase the base threat from HS, Shield Slam, or Sunder. Those are your key threat gen, sure more damage helps but it's the end all. Fenix is that way friend, you can pack your shit advice and bad memes up and head back.

Sick response bro, because i want to end this argument here and for all.

You talk about feenix as if you were playing there, if you did, what is different "tank wise" there, in comparison to here?
Feenix was more demanding in terms of TpS because of the infinite stackable buffs, so TpS was a bigger issue there than it is here at the moment.
Shitting on other realms is so childish tbh, those people did their best, doesn't matter if they failed.
I have over 100 days played there and i am playing here, but i am no sh1tting on them for anything.
That's very immature from your side.
My discussion here is over,i told my advice,some people who still remember me from feenix know that i am not speaking nonsense.
I am not going to continue arguing with a person who has a duck for a profile pick and on top of it a nickname "BADTANK"

[Badtank]

Sick response bro, because i want to end this argument here and for all.

You talk about feenix as if you were playing there, if you did, what is different "tank wise" there, in comparison to here?
Feenix was more demanding in terms of TpS because of the infinite stackable buffs, so TpS was a bigger issue there than it is here at the moment.
Shitting on other realms is so childish tbh, those people did their best, doesn't matter if they failed.
I have over 100 days played there and i am playing here, but i am no sh1tting on them for anything.
That's very immature from your side.
My discussion here is over,i told my advice,some people who still remember me from feenix know that i am not speaking nonsense.
I am not going to continue arguing with a person who has a duck for a profile pick and on top of it a nickname "BADTANK"

Feenix is a joke, always has been. Feenix players are a joke and a blight on the private server community for playing there. I hope no one but said former cancer patients ever take your terrible advice.

[St0rfan]

Here's the build I use 17/3/31. Due to being horde I prefer impale spec due to the lack of salvation for the DPS.

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Lihb0hbZcZEdzoxMdVo
- 2/5 imp tac because I mostly stance-dance for Mocking blow and 2/5 allows me to have that 10 rage. More than that I dont see the use for.
- 3/5 Cruelty. Again, TPS because no salvation.
- 1/5 toughness. This is the trade-off I had to make in order to maximize TPS talents. Having played WoW both on retail vanilla and now I find it that healers tend to be better now keeping tanks alive so I prefer to sacrifice some survivability for the TPS.

[Krah]

Trying to play smart while you have 3/5 cruelty and 2/5 one hand specialization doesn't help you, who would skip 5/5 one hand specialization? you mad?

Sick response bro, of course you can take 5/5 one hand, you just drop 3 points from imp sunder, I do it a lot. It doesn't increase the base threat from HS, Shield Slam, or Sunder. Those are your key threat gen, sure more damage helps but it's the end all. Fenix is that way friend, you can pack your shit advice and bad memes up and head back.

Sick response bro, because i want to end this argument here and for all.

You talk about feenix as if you were playing there, if you did, what is different "tank wise" there, in comparison to here?
Feenix was more demanding in terms of TpS because of the infinite stackable buffs, so TpS was a bigger issue there than it is here at the moment.
Shitting on other realms is so childish tbh, those people did their best, doesn't matter if they failed.
I have over 100 days played there and i am playing here, but i am no sh1tting on them for anything.
That's very immature from your side.
My discussion here is over,i told my advice,some people who still remember me from feenix know that i am not speaking nonsense.
I am not going to continue arguing with a person who has a duck for a profile pick and on top of it a nickname "BADTANK"

Feenix tanking was a joke, as most of what actually went down on that server.
TPS was pretty much a non issue for any tank that knew what they were doing, mostly because of bugs that allowed items to generate massive threat when used in defensive stance.(IE Cats Eye bug that got most guilds through 4h tanking)

Also remember attempting to LoS things in? Oh yeah, Fucked up too, bugged along with that there were a couple other things that also made tanking easier and more accessible. 0.5 Added delay that guaranteed you'd have SB up 100% of the time if you weren't stupid. 0.5 added delay for every special move & spell, no amount of tuning could undo the easymode that was created with that crap.(Claudian & Sideways brought all these bugs up at one time or another, but retards like Athairne & Danut kept these because they honest to god, believed thats how live servers worked at one point.)

Don't defend that horrific abomination, it makes us all look bad.

[Xylon666Darkstar]

Impale contributes considerably especially if you're using a fast 1h for constant heroic strikes. As your gear progresses, you can choose to drop points from Anticipation at anytime, long as your def cap remains uncrushable from progressive gear. Badtank brings up a good build if you're looking to maximize TPS for the raid.

[St0rfan]

Impale contributes considerably especially if you're using a fast 1h for constant heroic strikes. As your gear progresses, you can choose to drop points from Anticipation at anytime, long as your def cap remains uncrushable from progressive gear. Badtank brings up a good build if you're looking to maximize TPS for the raid.

I myself go for 1/5 toughness and max out Anticipation. I dont think you can even reach def-cap in current content? in BWL you will be able to atleast.

[Badtank]

Impale contributes considerably especially if you're using a fast 1h for constant heroic strikes. As your gear progresses, you can choose to drop points from Anticipation at anytime, long as your def cap remains uncrushable from progressive gear. Badtank brings up a good build if you're looking to maximize TPS for the raid.

I myself go for 1/5 toughness and max out Anticipation. I dont think you can even reach def-cap in current content? in BWL you will be able to atleast.

I'm def capped, it's not hard, You just have to understand how to itemize.

[Ektelion]

Impale contributes considerably especially if you're using a fast 1h for constant heroic strikes. As your gear progresses, you can choose to drop points from Anticipation at anytime, long as your def cap remains uncrushable from progressive gear. Badtank brings up a good build if you're looking to maximize TPS for the raid.

I myself go for 1/5 toughness and max out Anticipation. I dont think you can even reach def-cap in current content? in BWL you will be able to atleast.

I'm def capped, it's not hard, You just have to understand how to itemize.

I really want to see you def capped after the item update without styleen's and no ZG enchants since the ZG release is a bit after bwl i think

Right now many items have a very big amount of defense which will get reduced apparently in 18 july i believe?

Morris pendant 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Stockade 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Deathbone chest 25 def atm ( becomes 17 )
Redoubt cloak 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )
Stonegrip Gauntlets 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Eternal Guardian legs 22 def atm ( becomes 15 )
Force of Will 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )

[Ixl]

I really want to see you def capped after the item update without styleen's and no ZG enchants since the ZG release is a bit after bwl i think

Right now many items have a very big amount of defense which will get reduced apparently in 18 july i believe?

Morris pendant 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Stockade 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Deathbone chest 25 def atm ( becomes 17 )
Redoubt cloak 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )
Stonegrip Gauntlets 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Eternal Guardian legs 22 def atm ( becomes 15 )
Force of Will 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )

Yes, defense will be a lot reduced next patch, most of tanks knows it & already have there sheets ready.

After update, you can easy reach 440 def with a good avoidance pool / HP Pool aswell...
On my spreedsheet you can exactly have 440 def with exactly 9K health buffed. (Without ZG/LW Ench)

It's just itemization. Tank gear is situational

[Badtank]

I really want to see you def capped after the item update without styleen's and no ZG enchants since the ZG release is a bit after bwl i think

Right now many items have a very big amount of defense which will get reduced apparently in 18 july i believe?

Morris pendant 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Stockade 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Deathbone chest 25 def atm ( becomes 17 )
Redoubt cloak 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )
Stonegrip Gauntlets 15 def atm ( becomes 10 )
Eternal Guardian legs 22 def atm ( becomes 15 )
Force of Will 10 def atm ( becomes 7 )

It's a good thing you gain so much from two peicies of t2, deathbone boots + set peicie bonus, and ony trinket .