Nobody wants fury warrior pre 60

[Aten]

What about all the druids and paladins refusing to tank when they can?
Or feral druids refusing to heal when they can?
Or shadow priests?

I've got no problem with people playing the class they want to, the way THEY want to play, there is no shortage of warriors willing to tank, but the number of people willing to let a warrior dps is really low, and it's kind of shitty no?

Warriors who want to dps, druids who refuse to heal, priests who want to dps generally don't know how to play and will be excluded from 99% groups. You claim to be the number one dps but fail to understand this simple concept leading me to believe you are part of the general crowd.

Ie. Play what you want how you want but don't expect people to accept it. This isn't kids sports where concellation prizes are awarded for showing up.

[Shonem]

Warriors who want to dps, druids who refuse to heal, priests who want to dps generally don't know how to play and will be excluded from 99% groups. You claim to be the number one dps but fail to understand this simple concept leading me to believe you are part of the general crowd.

Ie. Play what you want how you want but don't expect people to accept it. This isn't kids sports where concellation prizes are awarded for showing up.

F2P WoW server is serious business, this isn't a kid's sport bro, this is for adults doing adult things.

I've logged 1000's of hours in World of Warcraft on retail when I used to play, I don't claim to know more than anyone else, but I certainly know how to play the game at a respectable level on pretty much every class, and as far as warriors/mages go, I know those two classes very well.

I never said I didn't understand why people want to kick a warrior wanting to dps out of a group.
But it ONLY ever happens for one reason in my experience on this server.
When another plate wearer in the group whines because he has to roll vs someone else for loot.
I've never been in a group without a tank asking me if I could tank the group, I always make it clear I want to dps before hand, there is no deception on my part.
If people want to ask me to tank after the fact that's fine, but they for a fact they invited someone advertising themselves as a dps'er.
Some people who do this don't even have the courtesy to announce they are going to kick me before they do so.

So if you invite someone saying "DPS LFG" and then demand they tank and then kick them out, they didn't waste your time, you wasted theirs.
And goes "hur durr their cancer who don't know their place", YOU tank then, you roll a warrior or paladin and tank.
Goes both ways.

I'm not telling everyone they should invite me to their groups, I'm merely opining about the attitude towards people in groups specifically dealing with warriors wanting to dps.

And obviously with people in this topic using words like CANCER to describe warriors who don't want to tank, it's pretty much proving me right on my assumption.

But that's fine, I can solo and avoid dungeons, but it still sucks.

[JeeTee]

Warriors who want to dps, druids who refuse to heal, priests who want to dps generally don't know how to play and will be excluded from 99% groups. You claim to be the number one dps but fail to understand this simple concept leading me to believe you are part of the general crowd.

Ie. Play what you want how you want but don't expect people to accept it. This isn't kids sports where concellation prizes are awarded for showing up.

F2P WoW server is serious business, this isn't a kid's sport bro, this is for adults doing adult things.

I've logged 1000's of hours in World of Warcraft on retail when I used to play, I don't claim to know more than anyone else, but I certainly know how to play the game at a respectable level on pretty much every class, and as far as warriors/mages go, I know those two classes very well.

I never said I didn't understand why people want to kick a warrior wanting to dps out of a group.
But it ONLY ever happens for one reason in my experience on this server.
When another plate wearer in the group whines because he has to roll vs someone else for loot.
I've never been in a group without a tank asking me if I could tank the group, I always make it clear I want to dps before hand, there is no deception on my part.
If people want to ask me to tank after the fact that's fine, but they for a fact they invited someone advertising themselves as a dps'er.
Some people who do this don't even have the courtesy to announce they are going to kick me before they do so.

So if you invite someone saying "DPS LFG" and then demand they tank and then kick them out, they didn't waste your time, you wasted theirs.
And goes "hur durr their cancer who don't know their place", YOU tank then, you roll a warrior or paladin and tank.
Goes both ways.

I'm not telling everyone they should invite me to their groups, I'm merely opining about the attitude towards people in groups specifically dealing with warriors wanting to dps.

And obviously with people in this topic using words like CANCER to describe warriors who don't want to tank, it's pretty much proving me right on my assumption.

But that's fine, I can solo and avoid dungeons, but it still sucks.

I just don't understand, why be so stubborn? You can wait 90+ minutes (or in your case 2 days lol) for a group or you can wait <1minute. If you have these 1000's of hours of play time like you claim then use this experience and tank 5 mans. The community needs experienced tanks not fury dps.

Don't bitch when said community wants nothing to do with you for playing a sub par rogue. OR get some friends that will feel sympathy and tank for you. Either way this whole thread is just stupid as hell. I play warrior here and I'm specced fury. I never expect to do dps in 5 mans or even 10 mans. When I actually get to do dps its a rare treat. But, you will never see me waiting around crying about "no tanks" woe is me bullshit. Face it, fury is a raiding spec that's in very small demand. If you don't like tanking you picked the wrong class for pve.

[diogenes]

What about all the druids and paladins refusing to tank when they can?

You haven't played much vanilla if you think paladin's can tank in the same way as warriors. Paladins require spell damage, and they get spell damage through consumables. To expect a paladin to spend time farming gold just so he can tank a 5 man pre 60 is ridiculous, its in no way comparable.

[Robotron]

I just don't understand, why be so stubborn? You can wait 90+ minutes (or in your case 2 days lol) for a group or you can wait <1minute. If you have these 1000's of hours of play time like you claim then use this experience and tank 5 mans. The community needs experienced tanks not fury dps.

Don't bitch when said community wants nothing to do with you for playing a sub par rogue. OR get some friends that will feel sympathy and tank for you. Either way this whole thread is just stupid as hell. I play warrior here and I'm specced fury. I never expect to do dps in 5 mans or even 10 mans. When I actually get to do dps its a rare treat. But, you will never see me waiting around crying about "no tanks" woe is me bullshit. Face it, fury is a raiding spec that's in very small demand. If you don't like tanking you picked the wrong class for pve.

This is my exact mentality and it's actually why I rerolled undead rogue from human warrior way back in 2006.

[Ektelion]

Everyone who b1tches about not getting invited to groups as a dps warrior while refusing to tank leave this class already and reroll something else.

I have done 140 ubrs runs to farm my felstriker as a tank ( i am a fury warrior ) i rarely invited fury warriors in my group, why? because i am fury myself, i had 5 times better gear than them, i could dps better, so why would i let another fury dps instead of me? plus rolling my loots? I am asking you, would you?

i have done around 1000 dungeons total to farm my bis gear, you know on how many i dpsed? not more than 20.

1) Because other people suck in tanking, can't hold threat.
2) I prefer getting "Pure dps classes with CC" instead of getting the same class twice in a 5man dungeon
3) Flexibility of group with different classes and buffs

[Proditor]

Since I experienced a horrible time lvling as arms warrior from 1-70 in tbc where i had to eat after every second mob I specced protection and never regret it. I have tried fury 1-40 and I have seen several times that fury warriors below lvl 60 with shitty gear has a really shitty dps. Why even pick fury? Go arms, every arms warrior has better dps than you because fury is so gear dependent on hit rating, your specc makes you less viable for tanking aswell and tbh a fury warrior without the hit rating rolling on my gear can go fuck himself since fury warrior without the gear have no cc while a rogue with almost equivalent dps has atleast sap and tons of stuns.

I always accept arms warrior as dps because they do solid dps with shitty gear, however rolling fury warrior without expecting to tank is the most selfish shit you can do.

[St0rfan]

What about all the druids and paladins refusing to tank when they can?

You haven't played much vanilla if you think paladin's can tank in the same way as warriors. Paladins require spell damage, and they get spell damage through consumables. To expect a paladin to spend time farming gold just so he can tank a 5 man pre 60 is ridiculous, its in no way comparable.

Actually, assuming the paladin have consecration I would argue paladins are the best tanks possible for 5mans before lvl60. It is a shame they got no taunt ability though.

Souce: I Have off-tanked on warrior most content and bosses up to C'thun and I have tanked all content up to and including UBRS with Paladin both as Prot and retribution.

[norm964bgb]

What about all the druids and paladins refusing to tank when they can?
Or feral druids refusing to heal when they can?
Or shadow priests?

I've got no problem with people playing the class they want to, the way THEY want to play, there is no shortage of warriors willing to tank, but the number of people willing to let a warrior dps is really low, and it's kind of shitty no?

Druids often times only have low mana as they only have feralgear (stam/agi) therefore they are shit at healing.
But the main stats from warrior are the ones you need to tank (stam/str). Therefore there is no reason why you shouldnt tankt whereas an enh shammy or feral druid just CANT do it.

And feral druids can DPS in a group of a warrior because they dont steal loot. And enh shamans never got into my armory grinding runs. Why should I take them along for zerger helm when it lasts me easily to level 60. I dont want someobdy stealing my shit.

[kuurtzen]

Up till when can you tank while arms speced? Is BRD doable as non-prot?