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My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticism

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:38 am
by Dr. Doom
Greetings, this is the talent tree that I'm progressively building. I am currently only level 21, and have focused mostly on the protection part, adding 5/5 shields, some armor contribution, 1 defense point, and last stand.

Planned build: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LAhZZEizheMdVo

My hope with it is to be able to tank anything that may be required.

How do you assess it for its tanking function?
How would I fare if I took my warrior with this talent tree to PvP?

Thank you

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:25 am
by chunass
In the arms tree you want at least 2 tactical mastery for swapping to battle stance and doing mocking blow when needed. That rend talent is pretty useless by itself, you won't be using rend at higher levels.

In the prot tree, you don't want more than 1 point in improved shield block. The first point adds an extra block while the 2 next points just add extra duration which is not needed.

Now that you have a few points that aren't wasted, you can put them in the fury tree for cruelty. More damage = more threat!

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LA0bZcZEizoeMdVo

Prot is pretty terrible for pvp though. It probably doesn't matter too much at lower levels but everything except arms with a good 2H wep sucks at 60.

However, I wouldn't recommend leveling as prot. It just takes ages to kill anything and every dungeon can be tanked as arms or fury, so you'd really just be slowing yourself down. It's up to you if you enjoy it of course :>

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:57 pm
by Heldunder
Honestly, your best bet is to level fury, and respect prot or arms at 60, if you need to. Fury=pve dps arms=pvp prot=pve tank

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:11 pm
by Undertanker
Jesus ignore both those post.

First off do not level proc. Go proc at 58+ if you want to tank.

Get 5 points in fury, then just work down the arms tree. This will make you an effective soloer and you can can tank all instances while leveling. Proc talents are only needed end game.

This is your leveling tree and the person above said dont get it cause you dont use at high level, bad advice. Who cares about later. Rend is your best damage per rage cost ability until level 40, and doesnt consume a white hit. Always keep it up, and pairs well with deep wounds.

Dont duel wield as miss chance is too high. Stay with a 2hander and keep a 1h n shield for tanking. Sweeping later in arms makes the hardest part about tanking eay, AoE tanking.

Tatical mastery is useful, 2/5 is required to swap and intercept, or swap arms and mocking blow if you are tanking.

You will have others who do know what they are talking about recommend 2h fury instead, it isnt a bad choice, but for a person new to the class, arms has an easier learning curve as you dont have to /sit macro for crit procs and arms is better for aoe tanking. If you decide to take a weapon specialization, do axe for more crit, you will use WW axe and bonechewer after that from sm quest.

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:14 pm
by Heldunder
as i have leveled atleast 5 warriors in both fury and arms... 2h fury is the best route to level the most effectively. arms alone is too slow, d/w misses to much.

and its prot* not proc, proc is a chance of effect.

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:26 am
by JeeTee
Seriously, stop calling it "proc".
It's protection.

Arms or fury to level, protection is unneeded.

Have fun!

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:28 am
by chunass
Undertanker wrote:Jesus ignore both those post.

First off do not level proc. Go proc at 58+ if you want to tank.

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This is your leveling tree and the person above said dont get it cause you dont use at high level, bad advice. Who cares about later.


I wasn't intending for it to be a prot leveling tree, as I wrote that I don't recommend leveling as prot (meaning that the tree i posted isn't intended for leveling, durr). He didn't ask for its leveling function, just tanking and pvp. Of course anyone speccing arms or fury would get the rend talent on their way to impale.

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:41 am
by Dr. Doom
I am going to level protection. Speed or ease are not a concern for me.

Rewording the question, since I am going to level protection, what talents would you take first and which ones would you leave for last?

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:43 am
by Dr. Doom
chunass wrote:I wasn't intending for it to be a prot leveling tree, as I wrote that I don't recommend leveling as prot (meaning that the tree i posted isn't intended for leveling, durr). He didn't ask for its leveling function, just tanking and pvp. Of course anyone speccing arms or fury would get the rend talent on their way to impale.


Thank you, yes, tanking is my main concern, and I was keeping pvp as a secondary possibility. If I would really be too bad with it, I guess I'll just play PvP with another character :)

Re: My planned talent tree - Welcoming feedback and criticis

PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:10 am
by vido
If you're gonna level prot, for the love of god dont't waste 5 talent points on anticipation. Get imp revenge 1/3 imp shield block, imp sunder, imp 1h spec. You should also go down arms later and get 2/5 tactical mastery for mocking blow/intercept/thunderclap/charge stance dancing. Then you go down the fury tree and get piercing howl for mob kiting (If healer is CC'd or LoS or oom or you ass pulled, you can usually salvage it by spamming demo/battle shout and piercing howl).