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pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:34 pm
by MrCer
Hey I read the pre-raid bis for fury and had a few questions about hit rating.

I read that 17% is the soft cap and 27% is the hardcap.
However I was only able to come up with 10% hit with ironfoe+ felstriker. Will I still put out good dps?

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:50 pm
by Heldunder
MrCer wrote:Hey I read the pre-raid bis for fury and had a few questions about hit rating.

I read that 17% is the soft cap and 27% is the hardcap.
However I was only able to come up with 10% hit with ironfoe+ felstriker. Will I still put out good dps?


8/9% is all you are actually aiming for. that will give you all your yellow hit % you need, white hit % is I THINK 18%? you only need 8-9%

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:03 pm
by JeeTee
10 is a good start 12-15% is comfortable

8.6(9) is must have.

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:28 pm
by St0rfan
JeeTee wrote:10 is a good start 12-15% is comfortable

8.6(9) is must have.


^This pretty much. 9% is required. Anything past 15% is kind of a waste. Having played fury through BWL and AQ40 I would say the sweetspot is indeed around 12%, after that stack AP (You will be crit-capped anyways in raidbuffs by late BWL).

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:34 pm
by MrCer
St0rfan wrote:
JeeTee wrote:10 is a good start 12-15% is comfortable

8.6(9) is must have.


^This pretty much. 9% is required. Anything past 15% is kind of a waste. Having played fury through BWL and AQ40 I would say the sweetspot is indeed around 12%, after that stack AP (You will be crit-capped anyways in raidbuffs by late BWL).


what is the crit cap for fury? And if im only at 8% hit is that okay for now? I could switch bows for 9% hitbut then I lose the 22 ap

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:09 pm
by vido
Unless you're human you're not gonna have a chance against furies with ony weps using #nostlike ironfoe.

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:26 pm
by St0rfan
MrCer wrote:
St0rfan wrote:
JeeTee wrote:10 is a good start 12-15% is comfortable

8.6(9) is must have.


^This pretty much. 9% is required. Anything past 15% is kind of a waste. Having played fury through BWL and AQ40 I would say the sweetspot is indeed around 12%, after that stack AP (You will be crit-capped anyways in raidbuffs by late BWL).


what is the crit cap for fury? And if im only at 8% hit is that okay for now? I could switch bows for 9% hitbut then I lose the 22 ap


1% hit bow is better than 22ap one in every situation since hit is hard to find on ranged slot. You should try to get get 9%. Period. When it comes to crit-cap it vary depending on your hit. The formula looks like this:

100% - 27% miss - 8% dodge - 40% glance + your hit%

Souce:
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/8460 ... d-edition/

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:00 am
by Gazpy
5.6 is the dodge from bosses on this server, it's further reduced by your weapon skill aswell, if you get crit capped on warrior raise your hit, Remember aswell If you miss you don't generate your resource to spam abilities, as fury you should have so much hit that you are never ragestarved.
I had like 22% hit in naxx and I got crit capped there aswell, but that amount of hit is just a bosswrecking one, you should be rather around 15%(I think this is not attainable atm??) and then pump some AP, Balance crit with hit and your power and you are golden.

+the felstriker you are using is making you hit 100% for 3 seconds so yeah that weapon is just pure gold for now.

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:04 am
by St0rfan
Gazpy wrote:5.6 is the dodge from bosses on this server, it's further reduced by your weapon skill aswell, if you get crit capped on warrior raise your hit, Remember aswell If you miss you don't generate your resource to spam abilities, as fury you should have so much hit that you are never ragestarved.
I had like 22% hit in naxx and I got crit capped there aswell, but that amount of hit is just a bosswrecking one, you should be rather around 15%(I think this is not attainable atm??) and then pump some AP, Balance crit with hit and your power and you are golden.

+the felstriker you are using is making you hit 100% for 3 seconds so yeah that weapon is just pure gold for now.


Thanks for the input. On a related note. RIP the decision to nerf hitscope pre-emptively since it was working for melee all the way to patch 1.9 (AQ release) in retail vanilla. From personal experience, I was rarely rage-starved in full AQ40 gear at around 12% hit meaning I could spam HS and almost remove glancing from my hit-table. Ironfoe and/or Felstriker will further help with ensuring you will never starve.

Re: pre-raid bis fury question

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:09 am
by vido
Common misconception is that from spamming HS you wont get MH glancing blows making weapon skill a weak stat. However a huge portion of your white dps (30-40%) is WF swings which will be affected by glancing blows on top of your offhand glancing blows ofcourse.