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hey guys, atm i'm specced tank and doing it fulltime (spec: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Lq0bZVZEizoeMdVo). However i've also been assigned to dps in some cases.
And there you are: Swapping shield in out in order to shield slam, trying to deal as much dps...

I've thought about respeccing into something like this:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LV0bZVV0VxxoVoxfzo.
In theory, I find that this spec only suffers a tiny bit of survivability while actually allowing you to do decent dps.
Of course, the lack of (2/2) Impale doesn't make you a perfect one, though.

This spec should be meant for tanking 90% of the time.

Maybe a few points should be spent in Defiance, but i suppose threat will be less of a concern with stuff like Enrage and Flurry.

Let me know what you think -- i'm curious how other of you OT's do it

Noone uses hybrid tanks in this day and age. There's simply no need for it. For your regular 40man raid you will need 3-5 protection tanks and an additional 1-3 fury warriors who carry tanking gear. A fury warrior in pre-raid bis tanking gear can easily Offtank in the few places its needed in MC/BWL where you need more than 3 protection tanks.

Rod3n wrote:hey guys, atm i'm specced tank and doing it fulltime (spec: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Lq0bZVZEizoeMdVo). However i've also been assigned to dps in some cases.
And there you are: Swapping shield in out in order to shield slam, trying to deal as much dps...

I've thought about respeccing into something like this:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LV0bZVV0VxxoVoxfzo.
In theory, I find that this spec only suffers a tiny bit of survivability while actually allowing you to do decent dps.
Of course, the lack of (2/2) Impale doesn't make you a perfect one, though.

This spec should be meant for tanking 90% of the time.

Maybe a few points should be spent in Defiance, but i suppose threat will be less of a concern with stuff like Enrage and Flurry.

Let me know what you think -- i'm curious how other of you OT's do it

the real issue with the offtanks and not being specced prot is defiance. with out 5/5 defiance theres no need to put any points into defense.

either get a nightfall and hamstring your life away on fights where youre dpsing, or go a dedicated dps spec.

Assuming you are tanking on most of the fights and dpsing only a few, I'd go with this spec (Impale Spec with Imp Overpower) since you will get virtually all the benefits you need for tanking and your dps won't be terrible if you use a 2H (pref nightfall) on the fights you are dpsing.

some small amount of fights are good with this combo ,
-example chromaggus (when there is no timelapse) tanking as fury can bring warrior 2nd on threat list behind maintank ,
-another example is princess huhuran where they can swap threats (as official strategy 3 tanks swap for stacks) ,
-another example is Gluth where maintank need some debuff refreshing and have to use 2nd tank. (don't forget all the bosses mention are immune to taunt) ,
-another but non important boss is neffarian if you don't have enough dwarf priests for fearward.

thx good responses, getting nightfall seems like a really good idea. Getting one would give you a slight purpose when dpsing, even while keeping the standard tank spec.
So you just spam hamstring to make it proc more?

Heldunder wrote:the real issue with the offtanks and not being specced prot is defiance. with out 5/5 defiance theres no need to put any points into defense.

well I guess that could be solved with this http://db.vanillagaming.org/talent#LZVV0VLxoVoxfzoe (although it would make you kinda handicapped without points in tactical mastery)

Yes hamstring to proc more as it is a low cost instant attack that does direct damage meaning it allows procs.

Get the ZG Exhaulted neck to reduce the cost by 2 and if you wanna pvp grind gloves reduce it by 3. Allowing for a5 rage hamstrings. If you also use 5/8 T2, the proc will allow a fre hamstring paired with neck and gloves.

If you get Nightfall, enchant with icey weapon for 25% attack speed debuff if your guild doesnt have a thuderfury. Having 2 OTs swinging this will have great uptime on both debuffs.

Undertanker wrote:Yes hamstring to proc more as it is a low cost instant attack that does direct damage meaning it allows procs.

Get the ZG Exhaulted neck to reduce the cost by 2 and if you wanna pvp grind gloves reduce it by 3. Allowing for a5 rage hamstrings. If you also use 5/8 T2, the proc will allow a fre hamstring paired with neck and gloves.

If you get Nightfall, enchant with icey weapon for 25% attack speed debuff if your guild doesnt have a thuderfury. Having 2 OTs swinging this will have great uptime on both debuffs.

thank you, good stuff

Rod3n wrote:thx good responses, getting nightfall seems like a really good idea. Getting one would give you a slight purpose when dpsing, even while keeping the standard tank spec.
So you just spam hamstring to make it proc more?

Heldunder wrote:the real issue with the offtanks and not being specced prot is defiance. with out 5/5 defiance theres no need to put any points into defense.

well I guess that could be solved with this http://db.vanillagaming.org/talent#LZVV0VLxoVoxfzoe (although it would make you kinda handicapped without points in tactical mastery)

that link seems broken. but essentially yes.