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HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:47 am
by GabeN
Does it stack additively or multiplicatively ? ie 7% to double swing vs 7.85%
Common sense would dictate multiplicative stacking since it's 2 separate sources. Other buffs from the same category stack additively however( eg haste)
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:12 am
by Thatoneguy
No stack, both can proc.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:36 pm
by vido
Why would it stack multiplicatively in the first place. It would make sense to ask if the procs can proc off eachother, in which case the chance to proc an extra attack with both items equipped would be roughly 7.21%.
Extra attack procs can't proc more extra attack procs, however you can get both a HoJ and sword spec proc from one swing. So the chance to proc is additive.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:53 pm
by Azuros
vido wrote:
Extra attack procs can't proc more extra attack proc
hmm
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:26 am
by vido
Well you shouldn't be able to proc a swing from an extra swing proc from what I could gather from old retail era forum posts, spreadsheets and comments.
I guess it can be possible on nost with HoJ, I can faintly recall getting double hoj procs myself but certainly not with WF which would explain why I haven't seen anything like it in a long time. Some of those hits can also easily be attributed to the wonky auto hit combat log/text delay.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:15 pm
by Dersock
vido wrote:Well you shouldn't be able to proc a swing from an extra swing proc from what I could gather from old retail era forum posts, spreadsheets and comments.
I guess it can be possible on nost with HoJ, I can faintly recall getting double hoj procs myself but certainly not with WF which would explain why I haven't seen anything like it in a long time. Some of those hits can also easily be attributed to the wonky auto hit combat log/text delay.
I'm pretty sure extra attacks could proc off themselves in retail (with and without HoJ). Would like to see evidence to the contrary if you have some, seems Blizzlike at the moment from my memory.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:19 pm
by Thatoneguy
Dersock wrote:I'm pretty sure extra attacks could proc off themselves in retail (with and without HoJ). Would like to see evidence to the contrary if you have some, seems Blizzlike at the moment from my memory.
Windfury weapon can't proc off itself since patch 1.4. For evidence on that search through those patch notes because I don't feel like it atm.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:34 pm
by Dersock
Thatoneguy wrote:Dersock wrote:I'm pretty sure extra attacks could proc off themselves in retail (with and without HoJ). Would like to see evidence to the contrary if you have some, seems Blizzlike at the moment from my memory.
Windfury weapon can't proc off itself since patch 1.4. For evidence on that search through those patch notes because I don't feel like it atm.
Sword spec procs, not wf.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:02 pm
by Heldunder
Azuros wrote:vido wrote:
Extra attack procs can't proc more extra attack proc
hmm
THIS.
Re: HoJ + Sword Spec
Posted:
Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:25 pm
by Thatoneguy
Dersock wrote:Thatoneguy wrote:Dersock wrote:I'm pretty sure extra attacks could proc off themselves in retail (with and without HoJ). Would like to see evidence to the contrary if you have some, seems Blizzlike at the moment from my memory.
Windfury weapon can't proc off itself since patch 1.4. For evidence on that search through those patch notes because I don't feel like it atm.
Sword spec procs, not wf.
No WF too.