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How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:02 am
by hechie
Hello

i have had a long and wild dicussion with some guildies of mine about swords prio and much more.
after some time we did not end up with a conclusion and that is why i want to ask you guys a few qustions.

Question 1 : How big is the difference between for None Orcs

Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight ( http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19351 )
Chromatically Tempered Sword (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19352
vs
Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19363 )
Doom's Edge (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19362 )

Question 2 : when should a warrior have the option to pick up either Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight or Chromatically Tempered Sword fx should they wait for all the rouges to get the swords or just atleast have viskag so its 100 worth before even trying to get Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight.

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:18 am
by St0rfan
hechie wrote:Hello

i have had a long and wild dicussion with some guildies of mine about swords prio and much more.
after some time we did not end up with a conclusion and that is why i want to ask you guys a few qustions.

Question 1 : How big is the difference between for None Orcs

Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight ( http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19351 )
Chromatically Tempered Sword (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19352
vs
Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19363 )
Doom's Edge (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19362 )

Question 2 : when should a warrior have the option to pick up either Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight or Chromatically Tempered Sword fx should they wait for all the rouges to get the swords or just atleast have viskag so its 100 worth before even trying to get Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight.


As long as rogues still need any sword, I wouldnt give them to a warrior. Mainly because rogues dont have any alternatives while warriors got a plethora of weapons to choose from.

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:13 pm
by Alkor
I might be wrong (bias from being a warrior etc), but I think in some cases, a warrior benefits more. Of course, this applies to non-orcs only. A good alternative for rogues is vis'kag+CTS, or CTS+Brutality Blade.

Another thing is, sword rogues have a talent for +weapon skill, and while they can respec out of it (when they get the sword) to get a talent in assassination for a dps increase (+2/4% poison land rate), I personally think the trade-off isn't worth it.

And it is true - if a warrior wants to be on top, he has to roll an orc.No love for cows :((

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:32 pm
by Alrik
There's something called Edgemaster.

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:32 pm
by hechie
well i should maybe add in that our guild is pretty casuel so we have alot of ppl coming and going or just stop playing the game so w8ing for all rogues to get thiere weps might take for ever :D i was mostly intrerrest in the numbers so i get see how big og a loss it is not getting BIS weps

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:33 pm
by hechie
the edge masters are we alleready forcing our warriors to have :)

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:01 pm
by St0rfan
Alkor wrote:I might be wrong (bias from being a warrior etc), but I think in some cases, a warrior benefits more. Of course, this applies to non-orcs only. A good alternative for rogues is vis'kag+CTS, or CTS+Brutality Blade.

Another thing is, sword rogues have a talent for +weapon skill, and while they can respec out of it (when they get the sword) to get a talent in assassination for a dps increase (+2/4% poison land rate), I personally think the trade-off isn't worth it.

And it is true - if a warrior wants to be on top, he has to roll an orc.No love for cows :((


That may be, but there's still the issue that rogues can only successfully raid with swords while warriors can use daggers, axes, swords, maces, fists.

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:39 am
by Adeline
St0rfan wrote:
Alkor wrote:I might be wrong (bias from being a warrior etc), but I think in some cases, a warrior benefits more. Of course, this applies to non-orcs only. A good alternative for rogues is vis'kag+CTS, or CTS+Brutality Blade.

Another thing is, sword rogues have a talent for +weapon skill, and while they can respec out of it (when they get the sword) to get a talent in assassination for a dps increase (+2/4% poison land rate), I personally think the trade-off isn't worth it.

And it is true - if a warrior wants to be on top, he has to roll an orc.No love for cows :((


That may be, but there's still the issue that rogues can only successfully raid with swords while warriors can use daggers, axes, swords, maces, fists.


Rogues do higher dps with swords, true, but daggers are far from useless. Before raidstats reset there were dagger rogues in the top 100 of BWL dps averaging above 600 dps with good margin. I'd wager they would top the dmg meters of any Regementet raid.

Re: How to get the most out of Weps from bwl?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:57 am
by hechie
yea that is also what i kinda feel like i mean when you pick dagger rogue you are picking a class that give you easy acess to good items since no one is going to steal your weps and maybe the swords rogues should face that warriors is a competed Wep type