Rogue Guide by Oto

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Youfie » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:12 am

The Shortest Path wrote:That's what I meant, yes. 305 gives 2% hit, which means combat talents alone are 7%.

Oh, ok. Well I guess we'd have to run more extensive tests then.
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Aslan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:55 pm

Some dedicated tests on miss rate and dodge rate vs lvl 63 mobs, also a confirmation that they didnt switch the glancing formula and some evidence on what + weapon skill does for yellow attacks in terms of miss to solve the above problem and the whole attack table discussion would be uber-awesome.
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Fyralix » Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:19 pm

So it's time again for another question! Hope you don't mind.

Basically i've been forced into combat swords by my guild. I have Felstriker and from my observations it has 4%-5% procchance. I also have Mira's Song

When i get my hands on Vis'Kag or Brutality Blade, should i offhand Felstriker or Mira's? I will ofcourse wield viskag AND bblade when i have em both.

The situation is kind of messed up in my guild but ill have to deal with it.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by duds » Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:36 pm

Fyralix wrote:So it's time again for another question! Hope you don't mind.

Basically i've been forced into combat swords by my guild. I have Felstriker and from my observations it has 4%-5% procchance. I also have Mira's Song

When i get my hands on Vis'Kag or Brutality Blade, should i offhand Felstriker or Mira's? I will ofcourse wield viskag AND bblade when i have em both.

The situation is kind of messed up in my guild but ill have to deal with it.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I am a human


Until you have both Mira is BIS.. never use a dagger and a sword. The fact that sword talent goes to waste on one of your weapons AND your OH not benefiting from your racial, I don't see any way that fel off hand can be better.
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Fe1 » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:04 pm

Oto wrote:Oto’s UI Compilation

what addon use in this compilation for dps meter?
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by The Shortest Path » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:13 pm

duds wrote:
Fyralix wrote:So it's time again for another question! Hope you don't mind.

Basically i've been forced into combat swords by my guild. I have Felstriker and from my observations it has 4%-5% procchance. I also have Mira's Song

When i get my hands on Vis'Kag or Brutality Blade, should i offhand Felstriker or Mira's? I will ofcourse wield viskag AND bblade when i have em both.

The situation is kind of messed up in my guild but ill have to deal with it.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I am a human


Until you have both Mira is BIS.. never use a dagger and a sword. The fact that sword talent goes to waste on one of your weapons AND your OH not benefiting from your racial, I don't see any way that fel off hand can be better.


Sword spec and the +5 skill for your OH only adds to the white damage of your OH weapon, which is not as significant a portion of your damage as most other things. Felstriker proc is almost certainly a lot better, because it adds to your yellow damage and MH white damage as well.

Though really, with no raid weapons if you have a felstriker you should absolutely spec combat daggers, I have no idea why your guild would want you to do otherwise.
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Fyralix » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:08 pm

The Shortest Path wrote:
duds wrote:
Fyralix wrote:So it's time again for another question! Hope you don't mind.

Basically i've been forced into combat swords by my guild. I have Felstriker and from my observations it has 4%-5% procchance. I also have Mira's Song

When i get my hands on Vis'Kag or Brutality Blade, should i offhand Felstriker or Mira's? I will ofcourse wield viskag AND bblade when i have em both.

The situation is kind of messed up in my guild but ill have to deal with it.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I am a human


Until you have both Mira is BIS.. never use a dagger and a sword. The fact that sword talent goes to waste on one of your weapons AND your OH not benefiting from your racial, I don't see any way that fel off hand can be better.


Sword spec and the +5 skill for your OH only adds to the white damage of your OH weapon, which is not as significant a portion of your damage as most other things. Felstriker proc is almost certainly a lot better, because it adds to your yellow damage and MH white damage as well.

Though really, with no raid weapons if you have a felstriker you should absolutely spec combat daggers, I have no idea why your guild would want you to do otherwise.


It is messed up and I don't have patience to explain how it got this way but let's get to the next question.

Say I get my hands on Perditions; which is the better OH wep between Felstriker and CHT?
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by bockhorn » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:18 am

Quick question about the spreadsheet: Am I retarded or is there no way to account for improved backstab and seal fate in the talent section? Also, where can I find the calculated values of hit and crit relative to the gear I've selected in the sheet?
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by Oto » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:38 pm

Spreadsheet is for Combat only! and imp Backstab is default, when dagger is equipped. (as stated on the first page = read the informations!)
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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

by bockhorn » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:20 am

Apologies, I thought I had read through the thing to see if I had missed something. Thanks for the reply! Does anyone perchance know of a spreadsheet that can take into account seal fate as well?
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