Rogue Guide by Oto

[Fyralix]

So the conclusion is that Maladath is BiS for everyone, even humans?

[bockhorn]

does this mean that there is also a point in going 315 in weapon skill, i.e. would it be worth using mugger's belt instead of bloodfang (together with aged core leather gloves) as combat daggers? Does Oto's spreadsheet reflect this?

[kaba]

The formula used on Nostalrius is Athan's formula :
5 * (D^2 - D + 1) [%], D = Skill Difference/5 = (MobDefenseSkill - YourWeaponSkill)/5

This is the numbers I got by using that formula, there's a minor difference between 300 and 310 in the results compared to the image you posted. The formula doesn't seem to work for 310+.

I'm really sorry, I misread this link and wrote Hermit's formula instead of Athan's, which indeed doesn't "add up" properly and doesn't work for 310+.

My bad .

Athan's formula, which is used on Nostalrius gives the following results :



(Sorry did this quickly)

Great, thanks! Will add this to the spreadsheet and do some experiments with Maladath for humans.

[kaba]

So the conclusion is that Maladath is BiS for everyone, even humans?

After modifying the sheet with the corrected formula posted by Youfie, Maladath was better than Brutality even for humans with my gear (prebis+viskag+a couple epix). Might or might not be the same results using other gear.

IIRC the unmodified original sheet said Brutality was better for a human with my gear.

[Aslan]

Hakkari OH should outperform maladath depending on buffs with the updated formula on my sheet most of the times, however not using the one from this thread.

Edit: As Human

[kaba]

Hakkari OH should outperform maladath depending on buffs with the updated formula on my sheet most of the times, however not using the one from this thread.

Edit: As Human

Are you using the Reborn sheet? Gonna try that one as well. What does it say regarding Maladath vs Brutality for humans?

[Sponza]

As of lately I got interested in soloing some dungeons/bosses for fun and it got me thinking. I've been struggling on Incendius for example, so generally speaking would I benefit more with lifestealing enchants combined with Heroism trinket?
How much PPM approximately could I expect in a boss fight? Trying to get a picture, might help me decide
I'm running a classic PvE sword spec (Vis'kag & Mirah's Song) and in case this would actually help what type of weapons should I aim for?
Should I stick to the same ones or should I consider a change (I've got a couple of fast daggers). Would going sub for extra evasion/cold blood be a better option ?
Any insight on this matter will help, thanks in advance.

[Daggerknife]

Oil of Immolation enhanced by spellpower and expendable to 100% uptime
Flask of Supreme Power to enhance Oil of Immolation and/or Lifesteal
Elixir of Greater Firepower to enhance Oil of Immolation
Greater Arcane Elixir to enhance Oil of Immolation

Do these potions / flask also effect poisons, and DMF trinket?

[Youfie]

Oil of Immolation enhanced by spellpower and expendable to 100% uptime
Flask of Supreme Power to enhance Oil of Immolation and/or Lifesteal
Elixir of Greater Firepower to enhance Oil of Immolation
Greater Arcane Elixir to enhance Oil of Immolation

Do these potions / flask also effect poisons, and DMF trinket?

Nope.

[Daggerknife]

Nope.

Would lifesteal / Oil still net more DPS than Crusader / Agility, if flasked?