Rogue Guide by Oto

[Oto]

Just complete the Azure Key quest, like a moron. Lost my opportunity at the Ebon Mask in 1.7... I'm so frustrated.

Do you mean Ebon Mask is not in the game yet or what? If so why is it added to BiS list?

I´m sorry for that, it was my intention to have even future pre-raid-bis listed, but its not very helpful.
List is edited and all things are available at this time.

[Sponza]

I've recently acquired Scarlet Kris and was wondering where can I squeeze that in. I'm running with pvp hemo spec while using Krol Blade and Mirah's Song at the moment. Any suggestions ?

[Oto]

Its a decent OH for Daggerspec. Not the beest tho.

[Satanspoodle]

Hey otto Thx for the guide so far

few questions:

As a Horde, are your BiS list based upon the human racial for swords? or is there any way for a horde to get 310 sword skill pre-raid ?
If no, then I assume going combat dagger with belt / prince dagger to get 310 dagger skill to be better?

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Lobotomizer Debuff proc in raids, do you know what kind of priority it has? Ie, will it push off important debuffs or just go to waste? If it does not push off other debuffs, I would assume it's still better than glacial for raids?

Lastly, in the pre raid bis list [Weapon - Superior Striking] appears I assume that is for dagger spec? or is it just a cheaper option to 2x crusader? I'm wondering because down at Current BiS even though you list daggers, it just states "crusader" for mainhand.

Think that is enough for now

[Oto]

Hey otto Thx for the guide so far

few questions:

As a Horde, are your BiS list based upon the human racial for swords? or is there any way for a horde to get 310 sword skill pre-raid ?
If no, then I assume going combat dagger with belt / prince dagger to get 310 dagger skill to be better?

Thanks buddy for letting me know about this.
I just edited the list again.

I am currently not aware of any kind of gear that can provide 310 skill for swords in a way to push your DPS.
You just have to wait for BWL. But still Windfury is superior for Horde in overall DPS. (When it comes to personal rankings)

Lobotomizer Debuff proc in raids, do you know what kind of priority it has? Ie, will it push off important debuffs or just go to waste? If it does not push off other debuffs, I would assume it's still better than glacial for raids?

This needs to be tested by some people, since i don't have so much time to farm the rep in AV so fast.
I can at least hope for us, that it is on low priority and gets pushed away.
About "being better": "THERE IS NO I IN TEAM". You are in a raid, theres a lot more people in there who would gain way more DPS out of a important debuff, than you do by having this dagger, even a grey one would serve the raid better in that case.

Lastly, in the pre raid bis list [Weapon - Superior Striking] appears I assume that is for dagger spec? or is it just a cheaper option to 2x crusader? I'm wondering because down at Current BiS even though you list daggers, it just states "crusader" for mainhand.

Striking is slightly behind Crusader and if Striking is way cheaper for you to obtain, so go ahead. You wont feel the difference. We are talking about 0.2 DPS or so and as always it is dependent on your personal play-style (using CD's in Procphases etc)

[Oto]

*Updated the Spreadsheet*

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[LilRio]

I'm guessing the best of both worlds option would be to go Nightslayer Pants instead of Bloodfang, you lose out on 4 agi and 1 str but you get that 5 set bonus for 10 energy.

Whats your opinion on using HoJ over BHB when using Royal Seal by the way?

[Oto]

HoJ is always best in this content.

And about that bonus, as i always say: don't take me over your own personal choices. If you want to go for almost useless 10 Energy, then go ahead.

[Youfie]

Whats your opinion on using HoJ over BHB when using Royal Seal by the way?

I know you didn't ask for my opinion , but why would you wear Royal Seal over BHB anyway? I mean, if you have these three trinkets available, BHB + HoJ rules. Unless you're not hit-capped on yellows, crit. > hit.

[Oto]

When you reach the critcap, which is the case in the current BiS Gear including Worldbuffs, you have to go for Hit over Crit.

Thats basicly all.