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Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:23 am
by Stubbler
Has anybody worked out our optimal overall BiS list once ZG has released yet?

I'm over from Emerald Dream and I'm not sure what carries over (hit cloak, off-hand Warblade etc).

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I'm asking for Horde specifically, both specs if possible.

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:46 pm
by Stubbler
I was wondering about that, through AQ and Naxx, is there an item to grant us the sword skill so we can fuck Maladath off and use another off-hand?

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:04 am
by Youfie
Stubbler wrote:I was wondering about that, through AQ and Naxx, is there an item to grant us the sword skill so we can fuck Maladath off and use another off-hand?

KT Sword.

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:17 pm
by Noxm
Stubbler wrote:I was wondering about that, through AQ and Naxx, is there an item to grant us the sword skill so we can fuck Maladath off and use another off-hand?


AQ rogue BiS = http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... Redtempest

Naxx weapons combo without KT :

MH : Ancient Qiraji Ripper = http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=21650
OH : Iblis, Blade of the Fallen Seraph = http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=23014

Naxx weapons with KT =
MH : Gressil, Dawn of Ruin : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=23054
OH : The Hungering Cold : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=23577

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:21 pm
by Stubbler
So Redtempest actually managed to complete his full set... pro.

Thanks for the replies, I really hope they don't bork KT on this server.

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:28 am
by Stubbler
Zulian Tigerhide versus Black Baron for overall BiS?

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:54 am
by Youfie
Stubbler wrote:Zulian Tigerhide versus Black Baron for overall BiS?

From my own calculations, Cape of the Black Baron is ahead, at least for a 15/31/5 Rogue - and without taking into account crit cap : if crit-capped, Zulian Cloak is way better.

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:24 am
by Aslan
Strikers bis in AQ!

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:05 pm
by Slicy
anrey wrote:For non human sword maladath is bis oh.


I'm probably throwing some oil on a bonfire here but eh it's just my opinion after all :

Maladath should also be BiS OH, even for humans, if you consider 315 being the weapon skill cap on this server.

Your glancing blows (which are 40% of your white swings on a boss) do 4,26% more dmg with 314 instead of 310 sword skill. Your white swings are key to your damage output and scale harder than special attacks. The more you're geared, the more they'll be important and having % dmg reduction/increase on 40% of them becomes an even bigger deal.
Short version : getting a +4,26% damage on 40% of whites seem pretty neat to me ! :D
If non humans sword rogues in your guild already have it, go for it (and get the +50 style points).

Didn't do the calculations but I would imagine the dps results being somewhat equivalent with raw stats OH like CTS or Ravencrest if you are raiding fully buffed (BoK + Spirit of Zandalar included).

But since OP asked for Horde BiS :
You get +8,51% damage on glancing blows by going from 305 to 309 when 315 is weap skill cap. Good luck finding an OH which reaches such dps gain before you get The Hungering Cold.

Re: Post-ZG - PvE Sword/Dagger BiS (Horde)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:36 pm
by Youfie
Slicy wrote:You get +8,51% damage on glancing blows by going from 305 to 309 when 315 is weap skill cap. Good luck finding an OH which reaches such dps gain before you get The Hungering Cold.

Actually, you get 8,51% percentage points on Glancing Blows, getting GB doing 93,51% when being 309, versus 85% at 305, which is around 10,01% increase in GB overall damage (8,51/85).

Don't want to be annoying or anything, let just be exact in maths :D.