ZG serpent or BT?

Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Issir » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:31 pm

Jing0 wrote:If the raid bosses resist 70% of the time, the pet is useless for raiding?

I heard ZG bat vs BT vs LBRS wolf is the question, where BT deals the most dmg, ZG bat is right after and LBRS wolf for grp buff.

Oh dear, dat 70% resist chance :D hilarious .Check your addons - mayby you can't see lvl of your pet and it's still arount 50 lvl.

Anyway, resists indeed sometimes happen against raid bosses. But, have you ever seen dodge\parry\miss\block\glancing statistics of Claw on bosses? No???

ZG bat has low orange damage bonus, it consumes debuff slot with worthless Screech, and it doesn't have Claw, only Bite, which means it's jk pet in PvE. For PvP purposes - mayby, but it's pushback sucks vs BT or even Spiteflayer, simply because they have Claw.

Wolves? The only viable DPS wolf would be Lupos. But it's broken. FH buff is annoying to use in PvE rotations without a waste and it's very weak. If you let your pet in melee again raid bosses to buff your melee group with FH, your pet will die in seconds on most bosses, so that's the reason why Wind Seprent is the best option. Wind Serpent can do damage from the distance.
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Cornholi » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:22 am

Lupos is only broken in the sense that it should be doing physical damage instead of shadow damage, if he gets fixed he becomes like any other wolf.
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Jing0 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:19 am

Issir wrote:
Jing0 wrote:If the raid bosses resist 70% of the time, the pet is useless for raiding?

I heard ZG bat vs BT vs LBRS wolf is the question, where BT deals the most dmg, ZG bat is right after and LBRS wolf for grp buff.

Oh dear, dat 70% resist chance :D hilarious .Check your addons - mayby you can't see lvl of your pet and it's still arount 50 lvl.

Anyway, resists indeed sometimes happen against raid bosses. But, have you ever seen dodge\parry\miss\block\glancing statistics of Claw on bosses? No???

ZG bat has low orange damage bonus, it consumes debuff slot with worthless Screech, and it doesn't have Claw, only Bite, which means it's jk pet in PvE. For PvP purposes - mayby, but it's pushback sucks vs BT or even Spiteflayer, simply because they have Claw.

Wolves? The only viable DPS wolf would be Lupos. But it's broken. FH buff is annoying to use in PvE rotations without a waste and it's very weak. If you let your pet in melee again raid bosses to buff your melee group with FH, your pet will die in seconds on most bosses, so that's the reason why Wind Seprent is the best option. Wind Serpent can do damage from the distance.


That is true. I have no experience raiding end game content yet, but saw another post saying the LBs got resisted a lot. Thanks for the information, I will consider getting Son of Hakkar then :)
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by keil » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:53 am

Cornholi wrote:Lupos is only broken in the sense that it should be doing physical damage instead of shadow damage, if he gets fixed he becomes like any other wolf.

lupos is broken because his shadow damage is mitigated by armor and also resists. In retail it was eventually changed to physical damage, but that was a later patch iirc
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Cornholi » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:13 pm

He shouldn't even be doing shadow damage in the first place.

Patch 1.9.0
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by keil » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:15 pm

Cornholi wrote:He shouldn't even be doing shadow damage in the first place.

Patch 1.9.0

we aren't at that patch yet, though. This server follows the patch releases, not blizzard's actual intent. So if pets dealing shadow damage was a mistake then this server should have that mistake in until it is fixed. However, it looks like 1.9 will come out before elemental damage is fixed, anyway
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Cornholi » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:59 pm

"As always, spells and mechanics operate at patch 1.12.1 while content and items are from the appropriate timeline."

From what Nano said on the forums, otherwise give a quarter of the classes shitty talents.
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Re: ZG serpent or BT?

by Issir » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:18 pm

Cornholi wrote:"As always, spells and mechanics operate at patch 1.12.1 while content and items are from the appropriate timeline."

From what Nano said on the forums, otherwise give a quarter of the classes shitty talents.


Yup, that's why you may abandon Lupos right now :)
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