Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Xylon666Darkstar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:52 am

You're not reading the posts. It's considered a spell instead of a physical attack you need SPELL CRIT% and since its a spell, will need more than 8% to keep it from missing(full resists). Arcane resists on mobs/players also still apply.

Use your brain, and look up the resources, f1rezzz.
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Theloras » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:26 pm

Xylon666Darkstar wrote:You're not reading the posts. It's considered a spell instead of a physical attack you need SPELL CRIT% and since its a spell, will need more than 8% to keep it from missing(full resists). Arcane resists on mobs/players also still apply.

Use your brain, and look up the resources, f1rezzz.


spell crit and spell dmg as well in order to boost its damage hence the video I posted earlier with the Arcane Hunter
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Kauerle » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:03 pm

f1rezzz wrote:Well arcaneshot here in Nost is not working properlly , it shoud get crit from hunter's range crit % and hit % [...]
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by f1rezzz » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:35 pm

Xylon666Darkstar wrote:You're not reading the posts. It's considered a spell instead of a physical attack you need SPELL CRIT% and since its a spell, will need more than 8% to keep it from missing(full resists). Arcane resists on mobs/players also still apply.

Use your brain, and look up the resources, f1rezzz.


It seems you you never played hunter on retail vanilla.I did and i rember how it used to work back then.
Its a Shot not a spell, Nost made it more like Spell . In blizz back then was useless shot but was fun from time to time to crit fo 471 dmg and it will miss if you dont have enough hit , it wont get ressited coz its not affected by spell hit, only by hunters hit(hunters with spell hit rolf), and atm when if get some crazy buffs it might crit ,its like well 2/3% to get a crit for 331 dmg , (Mortal shots not working as well for it).
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Xylon666Darkstar » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:13 am

f1rezzz wrote:
It seems you you never played hunter on retail vanilla.I did and i rember how it used to work back then.
Its a Shot not a spell, Nost made it more like Spell . In blizz back then was useless shot but was fun from time to time to crit fo 471 dmg and it will miss if you dont have enough hit , it wont get ressited coz its not affected by spell hit, only by hunters hit(hunters with spell hit rolf), and atm when if get some crazy buffs it might crit ,its like well 2/3% to get a crit for 331 dmg , (Mortal shots not working as well for it).


Overtime wrote:
Theloras wrote:Dare to be different kids...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVZ8PWFsuA

#JustSayin


So, in your ignorance, you believe Blizzard changed it from physical stats, to caster stats, just for TBC? Are you retarded? It was always like that until WOTLK.

I suggest you re-educate yourself on how the class functioned back then, and look at the old patch notes database + the VARIOUS warcraftmovies showcasing caster statted arcane shot/serpent sting hunters in vanilla + TBC.

Hell. HUNTER VS WORLD, one of the MOST popular hunter videos of vanilla, explicitly showcases the use of Talisman of Ephermal Power and other spell damage trinkets to boost the hunter's serpent sting + arcane shot as he solo'd dungeon content. Sorry, but you're off your rocker in the memory department.

It never benefited from Mortal Shots(read the tooltip closely). It has always behaved like a spell back then/now, vs physical attack like the rest of the shots.
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Theloras » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:02 am

Xylon666Darkstar wrote:
f1rezzz wrote:
It seems you you never played hunter on retail vanilla.I did and i rember how it used to work back then.
Its a Shot not a spell, Nost made it more like Spell . In blizz back then was useless shot but was fun from time to time to crit fo 471 dmg and it will miss if you dont have enough hit , it wont get ressited coz its not affected by spell hit, only by hunters hit(hunters with spell hit rolf), and atm when if get some crazy buffs it might crit ,its like well 2/3% to get a crit for 331 dmg , (Mortal shots not working as well for it).


Overtime wrote:
Theloras wrote:Dare to be different kids...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVZ8PWFsuA

#JustSayin


So, in your ignorance, you believe Blizzard changed it from physical stats, to caster stats, just for TBC? Are you retarded? It was always like that until WOTLK.

I suggest you re-educate yourself on how the class functioned back then, and look at the old patch notes database + the VARIOUS warcraftmovies showcasing caster statted arcane shot/serpent sting hunters in vanilla + TBC.

Hell. HUNTER VS WORLD, one of the MOST popular hunter videos of vanilla, explicitly showcases the use of Talisman of Ephermal Power and other spell damage trinkets to boost the hunter's serpent sting + arcane shot as he solo'd dungeon content. Sorry, but you're off your rocker in the memory department.

It never benefited from Mortal Shots(read the tooltip closely). It has always behaved like a spell back then/now, vs physical attack like the rest of the shots.


Correct, which is also why there is +spell dmg on Hunter Tier 2.5 armour:

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?itemset=509
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Böw » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:13 am

This doesn't need a fix. It isn't a bug and it is working as intended. Use your fucking brain.
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Xylon666Darkstar » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:10 am

Theloras wrote:Correct, which is also why there is +spell dmg on Hunter Tier 2.5 armour:

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?itemset=509


Indeed!
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by f1rezzz » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:17 pm

Okey lets showcase some movies from retail, and see that arcane shot Can crit , crits for alot more and even so
Range Wep spec from MM is affecting it as well + mortal shot crit dmg. IM not re-inveting this shot just showing you how it shoud be,and im not claming that it shoud be affected by attack power , only spell power.

https://youtu.be/v5bIKjadBfw?t=751

https://youtu.be/RNfh6jUIPqA?t=634

https://youtu.be/dPtSiKS5lJw?t=119 (No wep range spec)

https://youtu.be/GsNaGLGMoIs?t=17

https://youtu.be/fK5a3mBxiFA?t=691

https://youtu.be/XgFHoXedgSc?t=173

All those hunters that are showed dont have any spell dmg ot spell crin on them.
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Re: Arcane shot (kinda needs a fix)

by Scrand » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:25 am

Someone doesnt understand that spelldamage just up the damage of arcane shot. But it's still not a spell. It should be scaling by mortal shots, hit and crit, coz it's still a shot. You just can up the damage by spelldamage. So it's bugged as a serpent sting, which even doesnt scale by spelldmg.
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