Priest levelling build?

[Zaft]

My Mind Blast did more more damage than my wands (updated them often) so not really, you are still wrong. I also never had any problems with survival whatsoever.

But let OP decide instead of arguing between the two of us.

[Ana]

I just didn't spam my skills 24/7 and used my wand mostly, but I did use 1-2 MB on each mob for the most part.

Which you can do specced as disc/holy, too. Because, you know, putting 15 points into shadow tree doesn't increase your MB damage by a single %. Then comes shadow weaving, which is negligible if you're wanding instead of using shadow spells anyway.
Longer SWP? If it takes you the full 24 seconds to kill a mob, your pace is horrible. Wanna increase the pace? Rip "no mana problems".

Tbh priest leveling sucks until lvl 40 regardless of spec. But if you go disc, at least you get Meditation.

[varth]

Just the 10% hit from shadow + imp shadow word pain > holy and disc (outside of wand spec). I don't know why people insist on giving shit tier advice about priest leveling.

[Ana]

Just the 10% hit from shadow + imp shadow word pain > holy and disc

Repeating it some more doesn't make it true.
Oh and 5 points in +hit is useless outside raids (you're not supposed to be fighting mobs 3+ levels higher than you anyway).

[varth]

You can and should be killing mobs that are 3 levels higher level than you, which with shadow focus is fairly easy. Even killing same level mobs you get +4% to hit.

Maybe you should try to compare these disc talents that you think are so good for leveling compared to shadow, oh wait they are total and complete shit.

Imp shield/imp fort/reduce threat/martyrdom? All complete shit for leveling and gets beyond destroyed by imp swp and shadow focus

next tier you have 15% mana regen while casting, which pens out to what, 50 mana per mob? 100? I would take 6% chance to stun over that, especially when you consider that the previous tier disc does ZERO for leveling so you are basically comparing 15% regen + inner focus against 10% hit, 6% stun and 2 free ticks of swp

Next tier you have most likely -10% from instant cast spells which helps with swp, inner fire, and a few racials. Compare that against +20% range on shadow and 2 points into weaving, or 5 points weaving depending on preference.

Get your shit tier advice out of here

[gotmilk0112]

you're not supposed to be fighting mobs 3+ levels higher than you anyway

Bro, have you even played vanilla? You can kill mobs 3-4 levels higher than you just fine. "not supposed to" my ass. Hell, in most questing zones, the quests quickly outlevel you, so you always end up fighting +3-4 level mobs unless you want to waste time traveling back and forth and back and forth between zones in an endless struggle to do equal-level quests.

You just justified the leveling as Holy/disc by what you just said, so considering you're not nuking, and you still don't have any SPD to make any difference in dmg.

Spell Damage is not the only thing that increases your damage.

Imp SWP
Imp MB (dps-wise)
Shadow Weaving
Darkness
Shadowform

All damage increases.

And yeah, as Shadow, you do just MB -> SWP -> wand to death, but you gain actually useful offensive talents that give you 10% extra hit chance, 2 extra ticks of SWP, and a stacking shadow damage debuff. Less resists and more SWP damage. Compared to what, a little extra stamina and 15% mana regen while casting?

15% regen while casting is almost nothing at lower levels, not only because of lower max mana, but because of lower spirit.

And even then, how much of that 15% regen while casting are you actually going to use, if you're just doing nuke->dot->wand? You're out of the 5 second rule very quickly because you're just wanding, so Meditation is useless for this purpose.

You'll have more survivability with this spec and you won't get to kill mobs faster with your method, once u get high enough you can Holy Fire SWP Smite, or just holy fire swp wand.

The problem with Holy Fire is that it has over twice the cast time that Mind Blast does, and does less or equal damage. The extra 2 seconds of Holy Fire's cast time really add up over time, and slows you down overall.

There really isn't any point in going Shadow until you get Shadowform because the spells just cost more mana and rly don't do enough damage

rly don't do enough damage

lol lol lol lol lol lol

You couldn't be more wrong:

(all numbers averaged)
Mind Blast level 22: 123 damage
Holy Fire level 20: 118 damage total (initial hit + full DoT damage)

Mind Blast level 28: 172 damage
Holy Fire level 30: 204 damage total

Mind Blast level 34: 224 damage
Holy Fire level 36: 252 damage total

Mind Blast level 40: 288 base damage, 364 Shadow talented damage (Shadowform and 5 points in Darkness)
Holy Fire level 42: 316 damage total

Please, tell me more about how Shadow spells "rly don't do enough damage". Mind Blast only does slightly less total damage than Holy Fire, but casts 2 seconds faster, and once you get Darkness and Shadowform, it does way more damage than Holy Fire.

Most knowledgable priests will agree here, you are one of the nay sayers and you have right to be entitled to your opinion because it works, I've been there too.

You're the one telling people to level with a healing spec, and WE'RE the "nay sayers" ? I've clearly shown how Shadow is far superior in terms of damage, and yet you're still telling us that we're wrong and bad and that healing specs are better for leveling than damage specs.

This is not my first nor my second priest so I've been around

Everyone else has "been around" as well. We're playing a 10 year old game, if you forgot. Nothing is new or mysterious.

[res]

Mind Blast and Holy fire does about the same damage but Holy fire/smite are a lot more mana efficient - and you'll mostly be wanding anyway.
In general holy/disc and shadow leveling is about as fast but you have more survivability and can heal instances easier as holy/disc + no need to respec at 40 and 60.

[Botmaster5]

I recently made the switch over from 5-20-5 to 0-0-31 when I hit lvl 40, which I feel was a mistake. Looking back, I should have waited till I dinged 45 to respec from 5-25-5 to 5-0-31. The extra wand DPS really helps with your mana management. I'm not suffering for mana per se, because im stacking spirit gear and avoiding the Shadoweave Set trap.

[Xziser]

That doesn't make much sense to me. When I dinged 40 and respecced out of wands and into shadowform/darkness, the dps increase felt huge. How can it be otherwise when you get 10%plus 15% shadow damage? There is minimal wanding required to finish off mobs.

[Proctologist]

I've had my say with both shadow and disc/holy for leveling, I rest my case.

Take it or leave it, I don't mind if you choose to listen to my expertise or not.

E.g, Gotmilk.




To above poster, yes it's minimal wanding because you're nuking the mob.. And you're pretty much OOM, the downtime is roughly 2x times higher than compared to a disc spec(with 5 in spirit in shadow).

Unless you do as I did on my fastest priest leveling attempt, have water with you at all times, everytime you get into town to learn spells get 12-16stacks of water... That ensured me 2-3 levels.
Yes, I was grinding.

peace out