What spec when leveling with pala tank and then heal 5 mans?

[Armilus]

I'm merely pointing out the fact that if you bubble a paladin while tanking

I'm merely pointing out the fact that if you bubble a tank on pull (or anywhere during the fight except emergencies), you're an idiot.

If you think mana efficiency matters when you are ending every pull with 50%+ mana, you are an idiot.

If you don't understand that PW:S causes no threat and when that is a BIG deal, you are an idiot.

If you know a tank is going to take a big hit as soon as they pull and plan to land a huge heal RIGHT after the pull, you are an idiot (and probably die a lot from pulling agro immediately).

[Ana]

5-mans and big hits don't go together.
And if it's a choice between either ending each pull with 50% mana or ending with 70% and no downtime whatsoever, I would pick the latter. But what do I know.

how is putting PWS on a Paladin tank as he pulls a boss on par with being an idiot?

Because it's more expensive than heals, so you spend more mana, so you end up having to drink? Dunno. Sounds like it.

[Theloras]

5-mans and big hits don't go together.
And if it's a choice between either ending each pull with 50% mana or ending with 70% and no downtime whatsoever, I would pick the latter. But what do I know.

how is putting PWS on a Paladin tank as he pulls a boss on par with being an idiot?

Because it's more expensive than heals, so you spend more mana, so you end up having to drink? Dunno. Sounds like it.

Jesus, and you call me delusional with my posts...mana cost and having to drink aside, all I meant to say with my statement was that a Priest putting PWS on a Paladin tanking isn't detrimental to our ability to tank.

Got it?

[smilkovpetko]

5-mans and big hits don't go together.
And if it's a choice between either ending each pull with 50% mana or ending with 70% and no downtime whatsoever, I would pick the latter. But what do I know.

how is putting PWS on a Paladin tank as he pulls a boss on par with being an idiot?

Because it's more expensive than heals, so you spend more mana, so you end up having to drink? Dunno. Sounds like it.

5-mans and big hits don't go together.

If you have read the topic is all about person Tanking / Healing 5 Mans , second is the topic about Leveling and not some Raid Boss.

Because it's more expensive than heals, so you spend more mana, so you end up having to drink? Dunno. Sounds like it.

Because you don't know , you insist in something you have never even tested about!? .

My friend Bubble me with PWS before i run to pull , until trash broke my Bubble he already wand and /dance so much time . PWS helps on my Massive pulls , doesn't take aggro from me when i get "pre pull bubble" . and it leave healer to /wand the mobs all around me.

Mental Agility removes this "mana inneficiency" as you recall and the high Spirit Regeneration makes this mana wasted get regen in 5 seconds. Good luck.

As the topic say Paladin Tank with Priest Healer = Bubble Tank = Wand the target where Paladin Tank put his "judgement of wisdom" and enjoy in mana regeneration .

If the Paladin Tank pull 1 by 1 group - you will never get under 90% mana from beginning until the end.

Go http://realmplayers.com/Talents.aspx#btMhsVVoZcxtcc0V this spec starting by Discipline and enjoy playing.

[Younie]

5-mans and big hits don't go together.
And if it's a choice between either ending each pull with 50% mana or ending with 70% and no downtime whatsoever, I would pick the latter. But what do I know.

how is putting PWS on a Paladin tank as he pulls a boss on par with being an idiot?

Because it's more expensive than heals, so you spend more mana, so you end up having to drink? Dunno. Sounds like it.

Even at 70% mana after a pull, you have time and should drink before the next one. You may only have 2-3 tick of drinking but that's better than nothing.
So basicly, between each pull: pw:s and drink 2-3 tick or even more untill pw:s goes off.
That's more mana efficient than having to enter in fight earlier for the next.
And it's a better choice than renew+drink since you won't pull aggro.

[Ana]

So basicly, between each pull: pw:s and drink 2-3 tick or even more untill pw:s goes off.

More like, drink up as soon as combat drops and keep drinking for 5-10 seconds after the next pull started (I assume the tank has more than 1k health...) vs dunno, PWS when first pull is cleared then drink and keep drinking even longer? I guess shielding isn't that awful then but it still feels awkward and unnecessary.

mana cost and having to drink aside, all I meant to say with my statement was that a Priest putting PWS on a Paladin tanking isn't detrimental to our ability to tank

Gosh, I'm not bashing you, get over it But the point remains somewhat moot. I know preshielding a pally tank won't get in the way of his tanking. Neither will, say, putting rank1 SWP on all the mobs for the lols. But the healer generally won't do either thing, so this "advantage" is of little to no consequence.

[smilkovpetko]

Gosh, I'm not bashing you, get over it But the point remains somewhat moot. I know preshielding a pally tank won't get in the way of his tanking. Neither will, say, putting rank1 SWP on all the mobs for the lols. But the healer generally won't do either thing, so this "advantage" is of little to no consequence.

Make an alt character and come into my runs with my real life friend when he play disc priest you would see how it goes.

[krarox]

Hi!
Thanks for answers.
i usually PW:s the tank about 5 sec Before he pulls and then start wanding my tanks target, when its time for my first heal i am usually att full mana and mobs have already taken some dmg.
Interesting Point in removing spirit tap and instead go for meditation, i was thinking of using both while we level, but maybe thats not nesseserry?

[smilkovpetko]

Hi!
Thanks for answers.
i usually PW:s the tank about 5 sec Before he pulls and then start wanding my tanks target, when its time for my first heal i am usually att full mana and mobs have already taken some dmg.
Interesting Point in removing spirit tap and instead go for meditation, i was thinking of using both while we level, but maybe thats not nesseserry?

not nesseserry

[Haitharn]

Why would anyone put PWS on a tank? It's much less mana efficient than a heal.

There are plenty of reasons to PWS a Tank rather than heal them.

1. To anticipate large damage
2. Mortal Strike (Baron comes to mind)
3. No-agro heal
4. Possible to get a few tricks of mana regen off, depending on how long the shield lasts
5. If you are okay on mana, its nice to have an instant heal on the tank.