Efficient to level as shadow?

Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by Armilus » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:15 pm

Præisten wrote:As lvl 30 disc priest I can kill mobs my own lvl fast with very little downtime. Disc is, without doubt, the way to go until atleast lvl 40.


I guess I don't understand priest mechanics very well.

At levle 30, aside from wand specialization, which talents in the disc tree help you kill mobs faster?
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by sloasdaylight » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:28 pm

Armilus wrote:
Præisten wrote:As lvl 30 disc priest I can kill mobs my own lvl fast with very little downtime. Disc is, without doubt, the way to go until atleast lvl 40.


I guess I don't understand priest mechanics very well.

At levle 30, aside from wand specialization, which talents in the disc tree help you kill mobs faster?


None of them, and if you go directly down the disc tree, you're missing what is possibly one of the best leveling talents in the game in spirit tap.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by honuk » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:07 pm

truth is nothing really matters until 40 except spirit tap and wand spec.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by sloasdaylight » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:50 pm

The truth is you're a more efficient leveler as shadow than you are disc or holy, or some god awful amalgam of disc and holy.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by Armilus » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:19 pm

honuk wrote:truth is nothing really matters until 40 except spirit tap and wand spec.


and imp mind blast and shadow focus (only 3 points though).
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by sloasdaylight » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:51 pm

Armilus wrote:
honuk wrote:truth is nothing really matters until 40 except spirit tap and wand spec.


and imp mind blast and shadow focus (only 3 points though).



Imp SWP is nice too. 2 extra ticks of a hard hitting dot for free.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by honuk » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:27 pm

sloasdaylight wrote:
Armilus wrote:
honuk wrote:truth is nothing really matters until 40 except spirit tap and wand spec.


and imp mind blast and shadow focus (only 3 points though).



Imp SWP is nice too. 2 extra ticks of a hard hitting dot for free.


if you're fighting mobs that don't die before pain runs its course, you're probably fighting the wrong mobs.

shadow focus is nice, but that's all, really. it's nothing make or break. imp mind blast is pretty inconsequential. in my mind, anyway.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by Armilus » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:05 pm

honuk wrote:
imp mind blast is pretty inconsequential. in my mind, anyway.


You definitely kill stuff faster but I find that I have to stop to let spirit tap run it's course without casting after every 4-5 mobs due to the increased mana usage. You definitely need to stack spirit/stam if you are using 5/5 imp mind blast.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by FatherThrondor » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:15 pm

LOL shadow leveling is a joke. We had a pure shadow priest in our ulda group yesterday. Final boss fight, he's oom after the first 30 seconds running on fumes the rest of the fight. Cannot kill final boss due to lack of sustainable dps. After he leaves in frustration after 2 wipes, we bring in a mage and 1-shot the final boss without deaths. Efficient indeed. I suppose if ur aim is to kill 1 solo-content mob at a time and then drink between each kill shadow priest is the way to go. But in grinding side by side with a shadow priest, with a 21/XX/5 Spec (5 shadow for spirit tap to start then 21 disc for divine spirit, then the rest in holy till finishing 21/25/5 and respeccing to drop spirit tap at 60) I tend to outsustain them at least 3 to 2 over the long haul while not consuming water at all.

Efficient indeed.
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Re: Efficient to level as shadow?

by Armilus » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:19 pm

FatherThrondor wrote:LOL shadow leveling is a joke. We had a pure shadow priest in our ulda group yesterday. Final boss fight, he's oom after the first 30 seconds running on fumes the rest of the fight. Cannot kill final boss due to lack of sustainable dps. After he leaves in frustration after 2 wipes, we bring in a mage and 1-shot the final boss without deaths. Efficient indeed. I suppose if ur aim is to kill 1 solo-content mob at a time and then drink between each kill shadow priest is the way to go. But in grinding side by side with a shadow priest, with a 21/XX/5 Spec (5 shadow for spirit tap to start then 21 disc for divine spirit, then the rest in holy till finishing 21/25/5 and respeccing to drop spirit tap at 60) I tend to outsustain them at least 3 to 2 over the long haul while not consuming water at all.

Efficient indeed.


Wait, the priest was there as DPS? Ya, that's your problem.

5/5 wand spec in disc and 5/5 spirit tap in shadow is all you need for efficiency (the wand spec is about 5x more important than spirit tap). After that, nothing in disc helps you level. Points in shadow do help you kill stuff faster and you don't need points in holy to heal a sub-60 5man.

I am currently 5/0/19 and I also never stop to drink. I also kill stuff much faster than a disc priest.
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