Mouseover healing

[Melikecookies]

Everyone plays how he wants.It's not really my place to tell anybody how to enjoy the game.
Still for me, using addons that remove a choice in a game mechanic and leaves you just to press the button to see the result is as close as you can get to botting.Why are you even there?You may as well install something to press the buttons for you and get a coffee or something until you can go collect the loot.
Funny thing is i'll probably just use SmartHeal if i can't get mouseovers to work...
Anyway,on topic-If someone is using Classic Mouseover can he or she confirm it does/doesn't work?
If it does can you post some of your healing macros as well?
Yes,the /cmcast command is pretty obvious,but i can't get it ro work for some reason.

[honuk]

And yes, before you counter-argue with "BUT ACTIVE HEALING VS REACTIVE HEALING", I already pointed out that it's entirely possible to force the addon to cast the max rank available. I honestly cannot see a situation where it would benefit the group / raid that I pre-cast Greater Heal rank 1 over Greater Heal rank 2. If you're pre-casting, you're already preparing for the worst case (tank getting crit) so you're not worrying about overhealing.

I'm going to wager you've never actually been a healer in a progressive raiding environment. You don't precast max rank heals (in most scenarios). Pre casting on the tank is not envisioning a "worst case scenario." It is literally how you heal in a raid. It is not for emergency scenarios. It is for preventing emergency scenarios.

and if your tank gets crit you should probably find a new tank.

[troutblock]

I'm using classic mouseovers and it is working fine.
in my macro there is no space between the spell and the rank first open bracket, so your example should be:
/cmcast Lesser Heal(Rank 1)

[honuk]

for anyone who can't get classic mouseover to work, you probably have auto self cast enabled in wow's interface options.

[Melikecookies]

After removing the spacing between spell and spell rank it worked like a charm!Thanks.

[Rhena]

Unfortunately it does not work with Luna Frames and, while I haven't tried personally, this leads me to believe that it would not work with any other unit frames addon. Neither does this functionality work with Blizzard raid frames, so for the moment it's only useful for self and party healing.

I just added scripting support to Lunas mousover system. This allows to use SmartHeal with it. To make it work download the newest version of Luna here (remember to remove "-master" from the folder name).
Then you simply make a macro like this:

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/lunamo SmartHeal:Cast('Flash Heal')

and slap it on your bar / keybind it.

[Garfunkel]

I'm going to wager you've never actually been a healer in a progressive raiding environment.

You are right, I haven't been a healer in a progressive raiding environment.

You don't precast max rank heals (in most scenarios). Pre casting on the tank is not envisioning a "worst case scenario." It is literally how you heal in a raid. It is not for emergency scenarios. It is for preventing emergency scenarios.

I'm not sure if I understand you here. You spam heals on the tank regardless of his/her HP bar? Please explain, this is good stuff to learn.

and if your tank gets crit you should probably find a new tank.

I thought warriors couldn't get crit immune with pre-raid BiS gear.

I just added scripting support to Lunas mousover system. This allows to use SmartHeal with it.

Thank you, that is great news, I'll try it tonight after work.

Everyone plays how he wants.It's not really my place to tell anybody how to enjoy the game. Still for me, using addons that remove a choice in a game mechanic and leaves you just to press the button to see the result is as close as you can get to botting. Why are you even there? You may as well install something to press the buttons for you and get a coffee or something until you can go collect the loot.

I agree that everyone is free to play the game the way they want, no arguments there.

However, for your second point, I do disagree. Back in the day I was a mage in a progressive raid guild as honuk put it, and every time we went to MC, Ony and BWL I did nothing but spam Frostbolt. The highlight of each raid was timing Evocation to minimize downtime and maximize DPS. So I was overjoyed when we started AQ40 and I could go deep fire, at least now I was casting Scorch and Fireball instead of just Frostbolt all the time. Is every mage player thus nothing but a bot in vanilla? My point is that I know very well what it's like to do almost nothing but press one button for hours but, keeping that in mind, utilizing an addon that can minimize the human error seems sensible.

[honuk]

You don't precast max rank heals (in most scenarios). Pre casting on the tank is not envisioning a "worst case scenario." It is literally how you heal in a raid. It is not for emergency scenarios. It is for preventing emergency scenarios.

I'm not sure if I understand you here. You spam heals on the tank regardless of his/her HP bar? Please explain, this is good stuff to learn.

Basically. You have a "standard" go to spam spell that can vary depending on your gear. If you don't know what to cast, that's what you're casting. You can cancel it before it goes off at your own discretion to save mana/stay within the FSR if it isn't needed, but the goal is to make sure the tank you're healing is always in a stable place. If he gets hit during your cast, you've already got a healing incoming. If you do this with max rank greater heal, a few things go wrong: 1) you have to cancel way more often, because the spell costs a lot of mana. this makes it inherently unstable, because you can cancel right before it is actually needed and find yourself in a bad spot. 2) if there are other healers on the tank (and there will be), you are far more likely to be wasting your mana with an overheal. it's better for an attack that hits the tank for 4k life to be healed via two 2k heals than 2 4k heals, for obvious reasons. as you get better at healing and become more familiar with the content, the spells you use and how you use them can change. you may end up using larger heals more or less often as a result.

[Melikecookies]

I have another question.
How to make shift modifier macros with classic mouseover?
Like healing normally with cmcast and then when you hold shift to cast a different rank?

[honuk]

you can just bind them separately. make two macros. one says /cmcast Greater Heal and the other says /cmcast Greater Heal(Rank 1) or whatever.