Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

What talents would you recommend for raiding?
I currently have a 21/30/0 build in mind but I want to see other peoples ideas =)

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#bxRhsV0oZfhtcc0Vx

Healing focus can't really be skipped. A lot of boss fight do raid damage, and on all of those you'll need it. So unless you want to respecc for every boss, you should consider putting it in your build.

Renew is one of the mroe powerfull spells priest have. The hps and mana efficiency is huge compared to other priest spells. Of course, this efficiency is balanced by the fact that it wil produce a lot of overhealing. But Renew is also the only spell that allow you proactive healing on multiple targets. When used correctly, this spell is one of your best tools as priest, and you should definitely specc into it.

The PoH range isn't really needed in most case from my experience. The default range is large enough and you'll rarelly have bad surprises. I personally put a 40yard range check on my ui, default poh is 30 ... Considering you're usually in a caster group and that casters are not so spread (in most encounters), there is no urge speccing it.

Crit isn't really a stat priest needs. Our biggest tool is Healing Power. Our healing range is already huge enough (see how much GH does) not to need to crit. For example, pala mainly use FoL which is very quick and cost very few mana ... but heals for nearly nothing per cast. That's why they are anger for crit. As priest, you much less rely on crits and instead chose a higher rank. This is why I wouldn't put 5/5 on this talent.
I do however put 3/3 inspiration: even if it doesn't proc often, it is a good buff to have on tanks.

Holy Nova is a nice spell to have, even tho you may not use it that often. Basicly you'd use it as:
-max holy nova on vael (where you have infinite mana) as it provides the most hps with renews
-as a downranked PoH if ppl are stacked
-as a very hps efficient spell on short fights where you want to boost epeen
-as a life saver instant self heal


Spiritual Healing / spiritual guidance self-explanatory ( unless specific fight where you'd specc in Imp PoH)

Disco talents self explanatory. Although you could save one point in divine spirit (with the permission of your class leader) to put it in imp PoH.


You can change some talents depending on encounters or gameplay preferences.
For example, for KT progression I'd put points in Improved PoH, since this is a spell you'll use often there (after each volley) and it is extremely mana costly.
For C'thun and KT porgression I also put points in Spell Warding since there is very important magic damage on raid there.
There are some fights where you need to heal tanks more than the raid. Or where you don't take raid damage at all. In those case you can remove imp renew, get more crit, remove healing focus .... Stuff like that.



But the linked specc is probably the one that fits most encounters and -unless try hard or specific boss progression - you won't need to respecc often with that one.

I mostly agree with Younie but not every priest in the raid need Imp Renew and you could put those points in Spell Warding or Blessed Recovery. Depends on your guild/raid composition. If you have multiple druids, they will be most of the HoTs on the raid. If you're Horde, shamans will be chain healing and thus take care of raid-wide healing (unless the raid has to be scattered). If you're Alliance, paladins with their quick casts will take care of raid/wide healing unless you only have a couple who are too busy spamming heals on the tanks. Plus, Renew is very wasteful spell when it comes to HPM and neither does not get benefit from +healing much since it's an instant, plus unless everyone uses Luna Unitframes, you won't know who already has Renew ticking on them leading to more wasted mana as priests overwrite each other.

So maybe one or two priests should pick that talent and utilize it to heal raid wide as necessary, while no other priest in the raid every uses it to minimize overhealing and wasted mana.

Well, first, you do know who has renew on themselves. I use sraidframes and it never bugegd out.

Second, priest is the best "wide raid healer" as you call it. It may not be significant on this patch, but just check sapphiron logs on warsong, you can easily realise that priest do much more than shamans chain heal.

Then, renew is not a waste mana wise, it's in fact very effective if you don't take overheal into account. Thus why I said that you need to know how to use it.
Besides, renew is way more than the other spells, you can't just look at it as overheal/mana/hps efficiency. It's the ONLY spell that allows you proactive healing on multiple target at a time (besides poh, but there are very few scenario you can precast that). You may "lose" mana due to overhealing renew, but it's nothing compared to being able to lower healing needed before it is indeed needed (and on a large scale if you do it right).

I speced into Renew on Sapphiron. Before that I never saw the point since it was so rarely used.

I never leave home without the 4 points that improve PoH though. Those points are crazy good.