Spell Hit vs Spell Crit: The argument is over.

[Guybrush]

let the ISB argument commense....

Now that you've seen the light, might as well add ISB:

Uptime = 1 - (1 - crit * hit)⁴
ISB Damage = Total Damage * 20% * ISB Uptime

Remove hit from the equation once NBT #2592 is fixed.

[Wosser]

let the ISB argument commense....

Now that you've seen the light, might as well add ISB:

Uptime = 1 - (1 - crit * hit)⁴
ISB Damage = Total Damage * 20% * ISB Uptime

Remove hit from the equation once NBT #2592 is fixed.

If the debuff could not be resistet separetly after you crit, the formula would be 1-(1-critchance)⁴ but since it can, the chance for the event of "no apply" is the chance for a normal hit+the chance for a crit with the debuff resisting individually, so the formula is 1-(1-Critchance+Critchance*(1-Hitchance))⁴.

The whole dps formula for 7/21/23 with SB rank 9 is (481.5+spelldmg*6/7)*(1+critchance)*hitchance/(2.5+1.5*(355-mp5/2)/((420+spelldmg*0.8)*1.2*1.15+mp5*3/10))*(1+0.2*1-(1-critchance+critchance*(1-hitchance))⁴)*multiplier-debuffs. (Not counting in any spell delay or the fact that you dont need to use life tab in the beginning of fights because of the mana you start with)

[Guybrush]

If the debuff could not be resistet separetly after you crit, the formula would be 1-(1-critchance)⁴ but since it can, the chance for the event of "no apply" is the chance for a normal hit+the chance for a crit with the debuff resisting individually, so the formula is 1-(1-Critchance+Critchance*(1-Hitchance))⁴.

Not sure how you got to that formula, but its exactly the same as my first one.
Assuming 15% crit and 83% hit

1 - (1 - crit * hit)⁴ = 0.412
1 - (1- crit + crit *(1-hit))⁴ = 0.412

The actual formula for an unbugged ISB:

1 - (1 - crit)⁴ = 0.477

I wrote this script while making my spreadsheet, just to double check it: https://jsfiddle.net/9uysxoze/
The 12 second duration can be ignored since 3+ warlocks in a raid will always consume all the charges.

[Wosser]

Hmm, your right, didnt saw that you could simplify it. What do you mean with unbugged ISB?

[Guybrush]

Hmm, your right, didnt saw that you could simplify it. What do you mean with unbugged ISB?

An unresistable ISB: http://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2592

[Botmaster5]

Don't forget that ISB can be pushed off in the current debuff environment, so how can that be configured into your uptime calculation?

[Guybrush]

Don't forget that ISB can be pushed off in the current debuff environment, so how can that be configured into your uptime calculation?

It can't, its unpredictable. Personally I don't see it being pushed off very often, since its a medium priority debuff.
The debuff cap will be increased in 3 weeks anyway so there's no reason not to include it.

[Botmaster5]

The debuff cap will be increased in 3 weeks anyway so there's no reason not to include it.

1.7 in 3 weeks? did i miss the announcement?

[Wosser]

Hmm, your right, didnt saw that you could simplify it. What do you mean with unbugged ISB?

An unresistable ISB: http://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2592

According to http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/t ... ent-209440 its legit.

[justclassic]

The debuff cap will be increased in 3 weeks anyway so there's no reason not to include it.

1.7 in 3 weeks? did i miss the announcement?

https://en.nostalrius.org/timeline

so it'll be close