Realistic Lifetap Target #s

[Botmaster5]

The goal is to get 3 max rank shadowbolts from 1 lifetap

SPEC - Goal
DS/Ruin, 4/5 Cataclysm - 1066 mana/tap
SM/Ruin, 2/5 Cataclysm - 1088 mana/tap

Lifetap has a 0.8 spellpower coefficient. I'm currently tapping for 1016 unbuffed.
As DS/Ruin, I'll need to add ((1066-1016)/0.8) = 62.5 (63) more spellpower to hit my goal, which is easily achieved when raid buffed.

[Baalls]

This is good information. Thanks.

[Wosser]

Why do you need to get exactly this much mana from lifetap? If you're not using corruption you dont have a set rotation anyway, so you can just tap whenever you're moving or oom. WIth corruption i'd suggest 2 different rotations. Corruption, 6 shadowbolts und 1 lifetap take exactly 18 seconds, so you have theoretically a 100% uptime of corruption, but since this consumes way more mana than the one lifetap gives back, you need a 2nd rotation which could be eighter cor, 5 SB's und 3 LT's which takes 18,5 sec. or Cor, 4 SB's and 4 LT's, wich takes 17,5 sec. but due to delay you probably always loose 0,5 sec over 18 secs.

Does sacreficing succubus increase lifetap bei 15% aswell on this server?
Also you gotta count in Mp5, over 3 shadowbolts und one lifetap, you get 9 mana from 5 Mp5.

[Botmaster5]

As a raid spec'd, DS/Ruin, DPS machine, my only job is to shadowbolt my face off. Doing anything else (other than your assigned curse duty) is a loss in DPS. No exception, period, end of story.

We are still in an 8 debuff environment, which means that your corruptions are going to fall off, good luck getting your Nightfall procs.

"But what about clearing trash?" you may be asking... There is a reason why it's called trash, no one cares if you are top dawg trash dps, it's all about them boss kills.

That being said, the reason you want to shoot for these numbers is because the fewer GCDs you waste on Lifetap, the better your DPS output will be. Our DPS was already gimped by the Nost team 10% by taking away our DM/DS/Ruin build. We have to fight for every scrap of efficient damage we can.

[Wosser]

Yeah of course, even with 16 Debuffslots you shouldnt cast corruption if you have a shadowpriest in your raid, i was just wondering why you are looking especially for this 1 lt = 3 sb mark.

[Botmaster5]

i was just wondering why you are looking especially for this 1 lt = 3 sb mark.

because 4 SBs per lifetap is kinda out of the question

all joking aside...

when you are 60 seconds into a boss fight, and you are spamming the '1' key, bouncing on the bottom of yoru mana pool, you want to be as efficient with your GCDs as possible to maximize DPS output. i want to know that when i tap, i have the mana for 3 SBs. not tap and squeeze out 2 then realize i dont have enough for a 3rd, waste another GCD for more '1' spamming

we can be one of the most efficient DPS sources in a raid, if healers keep people healed. no other class has the sustained damage output we have without having to pop HUGE cooldowns (recklessness, adren rush, innervate, evocation, etc)

[Guybrush]

The goal is to get 3 max rank shadowbolts from 1 lifetap

SPEC - Goal
DS/Ruin, 4/5 Cataclysm - 1066 mana/tap
SM/Ruin, 2/5 Cataclysm - 1088 mana/tap

Lifetap has a 0.8 spellpower coefficient. I'm currently tapping for 1016 unbuffed.
As DS/Ruin, I'll need to add ((1066-1016)/0.8) = 62.5 (63) more spellpower to hit my goal, which is easily achieved when raid buffed.

Should be around ~440 sp for DS and ~610 for SM.
Sucks that Life Tap doesn't scale with Shadow Mastery.

[Wosser]

Well, even above 1 lt for 3 sb's, the more mana lf gives the better. I'd tap whenever i drop below 1k mana. You didnt answer my question regarding succubus sacrefice tho.

[Guybrush]

Well, even above 1 lt for 3 sb's, the more mana lf gives the better. I'd tap whenever i drop below 1k mana. You didnt answer my question regarding succubus sacrefice tho.

Sacrifice does but SM doesn't.

[Mortadela]

Use demonic runes, dark runes and potions and you won't almost never have to tap.