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How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other clas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:38 am
by Rebral
I was looking at the class charts for most played classes and races and I ended choosing a warlock since not to many people were playing them and that was perfect since I wanted to be a lock back in retail vanilla but ended up going warrior instead, but after looking at the charts again it seems warlocks are played as much as priest and druids are the least played. So I'm wondering weather I should re-roll to a druid while I'm still low level so i can raid since resto will be in high demand or just not worry about it and stick with my lock?

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:47 am
by nervous
Rebral wrote:I was looking at the class charts for most played classes and races and I ended choosing a warlock since not to many people were playing them and that was perfect since I wanted to be a lock back in retail vanilla but ended up going warrior instead, but after looking at the charts again it seems warlocks are played as much as priest and druids are the least played. So I'm wondering weather I should re-roll to a druid while I'm still low level so i can raid since resto will be in high demand or just not worry about it and stick with my lock?


no one's not recruiting locks ever.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:11 pm
by rockingjs
well, sm/ruin warlock mostly does top dps compared to equally geared other classes as far as i experienced it - then you have soulstone, banish - so the warlock is very viable.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:21 pm
by Fabuleux
And we all know that DS-Ruin > SM -Ruin

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:21 am
by rockingjs
yes, agreed... both are very viable and sm/ruin is also reasonable in pvp.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:27 pm
by Wyatt99
What does SM and DS stand for if I may ask?

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:16 am
by SuperDuck
Wyatt99 wrote:What does SM and DS stand for if I may ask?

Shadow Mastery and Demonic Sacrifice. Lock talent specs are usually described by some of the key talents, and rarely go 31 points deep in one spec.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:47 am
by Rhinzual30
SuperDuck wrote:
Wyatt99 wrote:What does SM and DS stand for if I may ask?

Shadow Mastery and Demonic Sacrifice. Lock talent specs are usually described by some of the key talents, and rarely go 31 points deep in one spec.

Out of all 3 31 talent choices, I always saw Affliction's Dark Pact as the most useful one, if only because turning the imp into a more efficient mana battery was better over the other two.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:31 pm
by Particles
Rhinzual30 wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:
Wyatt99 wrote:What does SM and DS stand for if I may ask?

Shadow Mastery and Demonic Sacrifice. Lock talent specs are usually described by some of the key talents, and rarely go 31 points deep in one spec.

Out of all 3 31 talent choices, I always saw Affliction's Dark Pact as the most useful one, if only because turning the imp into a more efficient mana battery was better over the other two.


No.

Ruin, the 21st point talent in destruction is required for all raiding locks. The last 10 points of destruction are fire, which leaves 30 points to spend in either affliction (SM) or demo (DS).


To the OP, Warlocks are one of the main DPS classes in vanilla, so they will consistently compete with Rogues, Mages, and Fury Warriors, although casters are a bit weak atm due to poor itemization.

Re: How viable are Warlocks going to be in raids over other

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:17 pm
by Cousy
Rhinzual30 wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:
Wyatt99 wrote:What does SM and DS stand for if I may ask?

Shadow Mastery and Demonic Sacrifice. Lock talent specs are usually described by some of the key talents, and rarely go 31 points deep in one spec.

Out of all 3 31 talent choices, I always saw Affliction's Dark Pact as the most useful one, if only because turning the imp into a more efficient mana battery was better over the other two.


None of the 31 point talents are useful in raids at all. Getting Dark Pact means you don't get Ruin. Getting SL means you don't get Ruin. Getting conflag means you have to get conflag which sucks in PvE environments, especially so in BWL / MC.

The 'extra' mana you'd get from Dark Pact is less mana than you can get using the same global cooldown from Life Tap.