Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Lorilay » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:16 am

Norjak wrote:
MrCer wrote:I heard you can get Greens with +dmg.

Quality is not a valid item suffix on this server. Where is "of Quality" from? I never saw that on retail either. Must be from a non-Blizzlike private server project.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Item_suffix

I had some level 14 bracers with +2 damage on my alt here. I've never seen any higher level greens "of quality", however.
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Norjak » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:47 pm

"of Quality" is documented here http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/SuffixId#of_Quality
but there is nothing that indicates it was Blizzlike in retail vanilla.
Someone was advertising "of Marksmanship" legs in Trade channel today, they were obviously OP for lvl 19 legs.
I wonder if devs were experimenting & let this stuff slip onto Live servers?
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Pixie » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:36 pm

Thanks for the good list! its a lot like the wiki, but in an easier format and updated info, and actively being maintained, examined, etc. I would make a couple suggestions

1) color code each row, or a column of each row to indicate how is obtained (pre-raid, raid, tradeskill). So people can easily identify all the leatherworking items, or ignore the raid stuff.
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add a column for sorting / filtering with just a bit flag or something (D(ungeon), R(aid), T(rade))

2) i'd like to see a compilation of what values we should be shooting for and when/ where those values matter more or less. one person mentioned the 8% hit cap .

a better question may be at what value in your gear optimization does the priority of your second or third stat become higher because you're nearing saturation of your primary stat?

An example of this kind of info would be the following questions for tanking. What's a good HP total to aim for (sta) ? pre-raid/ progression? The max AC reduction is 75% but what value does that translate to at 60? that of coarse is dependent on the level of enemy you're facing. Optimal Crit, optimal dodge( as high as possible after ac / sta?)

Maybe compile a list of a reasonable suggestion for these stats on a new tab. I know this is going to vary with opinion/ situation. Since, as previously commented on, the relative value of many pieces will rise and fall as paired with other items and as you progress: just giving the max values for wearing the number 1 bis gear isn't useful. So, a really top notch list would have baseline values for each spec at various points of progression.

i.e. for healers going into AQ 40 a mana pool of XXXX and SP of XXX is the baseline.

there is always trial and error on this stuff it seems like this is going to be a more or less accepted baseline.

3) Looking to the future: Nature resist tab? Cold Resist Tab?
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Taladril » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:36 am

Wow, I've never seen gear like that. We'd have to see and test the item to see if it did work, however if it did then it would have the potential to be quite powerful... at least for its level. You'd have to see how much you get and then do the math on it. And I think it's 1 damage is 14 ap.
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Fegan » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:19 pm

Taladril wrote:Wow, I've never seen gear like that. We'd have to see and test the item to see if it did work, however if it did then it would have the potential to be quite powerful... at least for its level. You'd have to see how much you get and then do the math on it. And I think it's 1 damage is 14 ap.


Friend of mine almost has the highest tier possible and it's already equal to an unstoppable force dps wise. He bought it for 6 gold on AH. Not bad for a greenie. He did get a dps increase straight to his AP level just like the enchant and the weightening stones by the way. So it should be on the list, though they're very rare (but oh so cheap since nobody knows how good they are!!)

Actually if you can grab a 7 dmg one.. (7 DPS) it's the same as a nat pagles.. 41str x2.4 = 98.4 / 14 = 7.02

Pretty neat :)
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Flaat » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:18 pm

yeah i actually had a of quality 2h axe on my warrio alt for quite a while becuase the top dmg was rather op. I never realised the potential on kitties!

Funfun, i am going to try find some quality gear :)
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Arcmor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:51 am

Has Anyone actually Seen Redemption drop?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=22406

Ive not seen it / or anyone with it.
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Norjak » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:33 pm

Arcmor wrote:Has Anyone actually Seen Redemption drop?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=22406

Ive not seen it / or anyone with it.

Not in the game yet.
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by Hanodain » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:57 am

Thank you very much for the guide !
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Re: Complete Druid BiS List for Resto, Bear, and Cat

by dampsi » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:37 pm

Boomkin for the win! :mrgreen:
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