Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Hi im pretty new to vanilla wow and I wanted to start a Shaman on a different server before this one went up and I migrated here, mainly because of the way the WF works and watching all those epic pvp shaman videos.

So my question is does the shaman WF proc the way it was supposed to in vanilla and the way it does on the other servers? I know it was contreversial and considered OP by some and later changed in a future patch, but what is the status of this WF Procing on Nostalrius currently and for the future?

Will I get the vanilla pvp experience or has it been changed or not fully implemented yet? Please fill me in, thanks.

It is currently bugged, and we haven't heard anything about it. So no, you will not get the vanilla experience with windfury. I guess their goal is to make it vanilla blizzlike but currently unfixed bugs stand in the way. Currently you only get 2 normal hits from the windfury procc - no extra AP and no big hits. I sent it to the bugtracker a few days ago: http://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=1242

Class-breaking bugs like this seem to be all around. I don't know if they intend to fix them, at the moment it doesn't look like it. If combat is broken, so is the rest of the game. But I guess they rather spend time on new content to appeal to the masses.

I'm still unable to reproduce this bug, are you 100% sure you're not just using a weapon with a wide range of damage?

http://i.imgur.com/v1ZT42m.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/btZG7C4.jpg
Windfury Weapon has always had those kind of numbers for me, very close together or no difference at all. Interestingly I tried Windfury Totem just now which seems to atleast do something.

Marsky wrote:http://i.imgur.com/btZG7C4.jpg
Windfury Weapon has always had those kind of numbers for me, very close together or no difference at all. Interestingly I tried Windfury Totem just now which seems to atleast do something.

What rank of wf are you using and can you link your weapon damage from your character tab the way I did?

edit:
This is with rank 1 windfury, the increase is very slight but it's there.

Rank 1. I suppose my weapon could influence things, do you know of a good weapon I could get to do some proper testing?

My apologies, I saw these threads and general whining about WF being bugged and just took it for granted when I noticed similar results, without really verifying them myself. I kind of adopted the frustration like a sheep. I'll put that aside and I'll do some testing and get back to you.

Worn dagger is the best weapon for testing as it has the smallest damage range.

Combatlog: http://pastebin.com/URHA0jii
I removed irrelevant parts.

So, it does seem to work after all. I didn't have very high dagger skill so it might not be that conclusive in the start, but towards the end the pattern is quite noticable. A normal hit goes for 13 dmg and WF hit 16-17. So +3-4 increased dmg.

I guess the mob I was hitting had amor equivalent to roughly 30% damage decrease;
My average sheet attack dmg is 19*0.7= ~13 dmg taken by the mob.
My average sheet WF attack dmg is 26*0.7= ~18 dmg taken by the mob.

Granted I don't really know if this is exactly right, I don't know all the parameters involved in damage calculation. But if damage is sheet dmg * mob dmg reduction (armor in this case) - I would have expected the average windfury hit to do 17-19 damage, not 16-17 which I got in my test. Did I do something wrong?

what about two handed weapons? After reading a lot of my combat logs, I never noticed an increase in damage in subsequent WF hits. Maybe it's bugged in combination with the two hander talent?

test with shitty dagger: I get the same numbers as you guys, wf AP adds correctly
test with shitty staff: same story.

Now I need to find an enh chammy to test with shitty two hand axe(im not gonna respec for this quick test).

Good point! I'll do the same test with a two-hander later.

Edit: Alright I did the test, the combat log didn't save though. However I hit for 23 on average, and WF procced for 30-33 on average. So it does seem to work.


I fighted the same mob as before, which had an armor value of roughly 30% dmg reduction. So sheet dmg * dmg reduction:
Normal hit sheet dmg is average 33 * 0.7 = ~23. Thats correct.
WF procc sheet dmg is average 47 * 0.7 = ~33. Correct as well I guess.

This is with Windfury Weapon rank 1 as well, IF there is an issue somewhere it's quite hard to notice at these small numbers. If someone at lvl 60 would like to do the same test with the last windfury rank it would be great. Since that gives quite a lot of AP it is a lot easier to see if it does actually hit for the right amount.

With the 1h test above I used a Worn Dagger, 1-2 dmg range. This 2h test I used Worn Battleaxe, 3-5 dmg range.