Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by JCarrill0 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:23 am

TheFishyOne wrote:Calm down! Were are all Brothers under the Light, here.

LOL our history goes way back... some things never change

TheFishyOne wrote:Duki, what JC wants to know is whether it would be worth it to intentionally eat crits @ 440 Def in order to proc Redoubt, since it only procs on crits and is a big ass chunk of our Block Chance

CORRECT!!

TheFishyOne wrote:JC, I don't think 440 Def is even possible until late AQ40 (possibly early Naxx), but if eating a crit every 10sec to proc Redoubt is beneficial, why not just /sit?

You can get capped with dungeons Blues, see my dungeons guide for more details (some items have not been itemized on Nost yet to be currently accurate, but it is possible once that itemization is done).

Here is my OLD Prot Paladin with 440 Def
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by smilkovpetko » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:21 am

alright :) my bad english for the topic and redoubt.

anyway you can get even in 1.6 def cap as paladin .

there are items which JC didn't even mention and i see some paladins using them in server.

some items are not using the stats on the build that JC said (they give more def) than the description
(which later will be changed but we get more items opened) .

ench helm 9 + medal 10 + stock 10 + redoubt 7 + death 17 + fel hard 3 + stonegrip 10 + brd legs 22 + 2x fingers from sunken temple 8 + force of will trink 10 = 106 + 12 from leatherwork enchant + dracon shield 15 = 131 + talent 10 = 143
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by JCarrill0 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:21 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:alright :) my bad english for the topic and redoubt.

anyway you can get even in 1.6 def cap as paladin .

there are items which JC didn't even mention and i see some paladins using them in server.

some items are not using the stats on the build that JC said (they give more def) than the description
(which later will be changed but we get more items opened) .

ench helm 9 + medal 10 + stock 10 + redoubt 7 + death 17 + fel hard 3 + stonegrip 10 + brd legs 22 + 2x fingers from sunken temple 8 + force of will trink 10 = 106 + 12 from leatherwork enchant + dracon shield 15 = 131 + talent 10 = 143

stick to the topic Duki please.

PS - all of those items you mentioned have been listed.
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by TheFishyOne » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:30 pm

Huh.

Well, thank you for that info, guys. That said, should a Tankadin intentionally eat a crit every 10sec to proc Redoubt once he has all that gear?
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by JCarrill0 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:02 am

TheFishyOne wrote:Huh.

Well, thank you for that info, guys. That said, should a Tankadin intentionally eat a crit every 10sec to proc Redoubt once he has all that gear?


That's exactly what I been asking :)
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by smilkovpetko » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:21 am

At bossfight crit eating is very bad choice and we don't care about the talent (we use it only for shield absorb).

At trash / npc fight (only for aoe) it is good to eat crits because aoe usual do low damage and make this extremely high to proc , so we gain tons of aggro that way .
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by JCarrill0 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:25 am

smilkovpetko wrote:At bossfight crit eating is very bad choice and we don't care about the talent (we use it only for shield absorb).

At trash / npc fight (only for aoe) it is good to eat crits because aoe usual do low damage and make this extremely high to proc , so we gain tons of aggro that way .

This is what I was explaNing since post #1, lol now he gets it /facepalm
Swoping out a shield would be needed.
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Re: Thoerycraft: Tanking with Redoubt, but defense capped?

by JCarrill0 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:59 pm

Thinking of Shields to swop out, Clearly Duki si right about using Force Reactive Disk, but what if your not an Eng? I was thinking of a BoE Shield:
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2256 Armor
40 Block
+10 Fire Resistance
+10 Shadow Resistance

Equip: When struck in combat has a 3% chance of stealing 35 life from target enemy.
Equip: When struck in combat has a 1% chance of dealing 75 to 126 Fire damage to all targets around you.

Enchant Shield - Greater Stamina - Permanently enchant a shield to give +7 Stamina.
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