Retribution paladin?

Re: Retribution paladin?

by smilkovpetko » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:02 pm

Theloras wrote:
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TheFishyOne wrote:This is a spec I got from Theloras: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sxxzZVuZxf0trfVo

Great for soloing, and you can fill any role in a dungeon group.

Start with 11 in Holy, then move on to Ret, or pick up 5/5 Redoubt first if you plan on Tanking dungeouns from time to time.

BTW, Sanctity Aura is currently bugged here, and doesn't affect a number of sources of Holy damage, like SoC.


Why have 5/5 in redoubt and and 3/3 in two handed specialization?


A Paladin always needs a shield and 5/5 Redoubt is the single greatest shield talent in the game - especially when AoE tanking with Force Reactive Disk


Theo he requested ret pve not tanking ;) . anyway he has all options ^

poke him your pvp spec he requested.

p.s Retribution PVE has few options =
1. is support with AOE tanking using Shield and some Heal as Theoloras mention.
2. is support little DPS with Healing.
3. is pure Retribution DPS (you should not bother healing/tanking in this) .

the one i mention is #3.
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by smilkovpetko » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:09 pm

TheFishyOne wrote:This is a spec I got from Theloras: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sxxzZVuZxf0trfVo

Great for soloing, and you can fill any role in a dungeon group.

Start with 11 in Holy, then move on to Ret, or pick up 5/5 Redoubt first if you plan on Tanking dungeouns from time to time.

BTW, Sanctity Aura is currently bugged here, and doesn't affect a number of sources of Holy damage, like SoC.


Does it affect any Ability still ?

consecration,joc,exorcism,hammer of wraith,holy wrath?

^ If it doesn't affect seal of command still it is far more benefit if it work with the mention abilities ^.
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by Theloras » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:02 pm

that's fine but you have to spend 5 points in tier 1 proc tree anyway in order to get 3/3 Precision in tier 2, so you might as well take the best are tanking talent over LOL Imp Devotion Aura

PS Repentance is actually useful in Naxx on the humanoid group pulls before Grand Widow - a Ret Paladin can keep one of those adds CC'd from 20 yards out for 6 sec Repentance than another 6 sec Hammer of Justice - this allows all the DPS to focus the first add down and then switch to your target.
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by smilkovpetko » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:26 am

Theloras wrote:that's fine but you have to spend 5 points in tier 1 proc tree anyway in order to get 3/3 Precision in tier 2, so you might as well take the best are tanking talent over LOL Imp Devotion Aura

PS Repentance is actually useful in Naxx on the humanoid group pulls before Grand Widow - a Ret Paladin can keep one of those adds CC'd from 20 yards out for 6 sec Repentance than another 6 sec Hammer of Justice - this allows all the DPS to focus the first add down and then switch to your target.


Devotion or redoubt - agree whoever you choose. doesn't matter much , both are helpful = 1 for tanks in group , other if you assist in aoe tanking.

about repentance you can remove 1 point from pursuit of justice , but i never witnessed any need of it.

since that part of adds you can aoe burn them down quick ;) especially as retri you skyrock burning those adds damn fast.
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by Theloras » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:33 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Theloras wrote:that's fine but you have to spend 5 points in tier 1 proc tree anyway in order to get 3/3 Precision in tier 2, so you might as well take the best are tanking talent over LOL Imp Devotion Aura

PS Repentance is actually useful in Naxx on the humanoid group pulls before Grand Widow - a Ret Paladin can keep one of those adds CC'd from 20 yards out for 6 sec Repentance than another 6 sec Hammer of Justice - this allows all the DPS to focus the first add down and then switch to your target.


Devotion or redoubt - agree whoever you choose. doesn't matter much , both are helpful = 1 for tanks in group , other if you assist in aoe tanking.

about repentance you can remove 1 point from pursuit of justice , but i never witnessed any need of it.

since that part of adds you can aoe burn them down quick ;) especially as retri you skyrock burning those adds damn fast.


we found it safer to focus fire one at a time with every single DPS moving from one target to another while I kept the furthest one away CC'd as long as possible but to each their own
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by smilkovpetko » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:10 am

Theloras wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:
Theloras wrote:that's fine but you have to spend 5 points in tier 1 proc tree anyway in order to get 3/3 Precision in tier 2, so you might as well take the best are tanking talent over LOL Imp Devotion Aura

PS Repentance is actually useful in Naxx on the humanoid group pulls before Grand Widow - a Ret Paladin can keep one of those adds CC'd from 20 yards out for 6 sec Repentance than another 6 sec Hammer of Justice - this allows all the DPS to focus the first add down and then switch to your target.


Devotion or redoubt - agree whoever you choose. doesn't matter much , both are helpful = 1 for tanks in group , other if you assist in aoe tanking.

about repentance you can remove 1 point from pursuit of justice , but i never witnessed any need of it.

since that part of adds you can aoe burn them down quick ;) especially as retri you skyrock burning those adds damn fast.


we found it safer to focus fire one at a time with every single DPS moving from one target to another while I kept the furthest one away CC'd as long as possible but to each their own


i was nerd (tankadin) so while people was doing stuns and aoe dps ., i was solo aoe tanking all ^ :P

the secrets of protadin.

that was the main reason why i got rewarded with styleen trink over prot warriors .
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by SillySingu » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:33 pm

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sE0zZxMt0j0xZVf0p

this is the build I'm goign to use. Its more of a prot spec but yeah. Focus lies on reckoning and holy damage with SoC
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by Theloras » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:37 pm

SillySingu wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sE0zZxMt0j0xZVf0p

this is the build I'm goign to use. Its more of a prot spec but yeah. Focus lies on reckoning and holy damage with SoC


don't take benediction in the ret tree - it's still bugged here on nostalrius - you will have to go 5/5 imp might tier 1
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by Mightywolve » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:13 am

Theloras wrote:
SillySingu wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sE0zZxMt0j0xZVf0p

this is the build I'm goign to use. Its more of a prot spec but yeah. Focus lies on reckoning and holy damage with SoC


don't take benediction in the ret tree - it's still bugged here on nostalrius - you will have to go 5/5 imp might tier 1


What about this one?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sxxzZVuZxf0trfVo
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Re: Retribution paladin?

by Theloras » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:35 am

Mightywolve wrote:
Theloras wrote:
SillySingu wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sE0zZxMt0j0xZVf0p

this is the build I'm goign to use. Its more of a prot spec but yeah. Focus lies on reckoning and holy damage with SoC


don't take benediction in the ret tree - it's still bugged here on nostalrius - you will have to go 5/5 imp might tier 1


What about this one?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sxxzZVuZxf0trfVo


Looks good to me - for Pure Ret PvE though you may want to take 1 point out of E4E and put it into Sanctity Aura - it's still not boosting Seal of Command but if you use Consecration in combat, it should still boost its damage by 10% as well as Hammer of Wrath from what I've heard from other Paladins.
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